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Originally posted by Daoloth
How will the war for all the Pacific islands be simulated in the game?

It appears (according to the SGO interview) that amphibious operations are a part of the game. As to how the actual mechanics will work, I have no idea but I hope to find out soon what with the new batch of beta testers.

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It seems that amphibious operations can be carried out. I am hoping that all of the small Pacific islands are included, too. Well, many of them anyways.. There so many very small ones, there would probably be too many. And a large fraction of the game's provinces would be individual islands. :D

Anyways, I would like the main islands (The Solomons, Wake, Guam, Johnston Islands, Okinawa and the Ryukyu's, and the Kurils, Hawaii and Midway of course, the Aleutians, Iwo Jima, ect. to be in it). It would make it very strategic as you would be building up defences on all of the islands and would have to keep them supplied. This would need much naval/air strategy. And the person attacking the islands will have to also use alot of strategy. "Island Hopping" was MacArthur's strategy. You would isolate strong islands and capture weak ones. Then, starve out the strong ones and then take them over. The defenders would have to try to prevent the isolation of islands and so on.

It will also be interesting to see how troops will fair in the heat... Attrition will probably get high. I also wonder if some units will fight better in different climates or get used to climates. In Japan, soldiers who were in the Kurils and other far northern areas were from Tohoku, and Hokkaido, the northern-most prefectures of Japan. So, these units could have less attrition in the colder climates, but perhaps more in the warm ones. This would add another strategic scope to the game.. :D

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I'm putting much hope into the naval battles, with carriers and all. But it's hard to say anything about it as we haven't even seen any screens of it.
 

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Originally posted by Mannock
I'm putting much hope into the naval battles, with carriers and all. But it's hard to say anything about it as we haven't even seen any screens of it.

Yes, we'll need some Pacific screenshots soon. I hope in the next few weeks. :D :D


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Playing as Japan, I would build a ton of carriers and a zillion planes. Also land based aircraft deployed on the islands should be a priority.
That's the problem.
Today we all know how important air warfare is.
It would be nuts not to invest for the highest possible air tech over naval or even tank tech.
 

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Sure, but how are going to get fuel to keep them all operational. You have your main problem to worry about in China as well. The war in the Pacific wasn't intended by the Japanese. They wanted the Dutch East Indies or Siberia to continue the war in China...
 
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Originally posted by Aetius
Sure, but how are going to get fuel to keep them all operational. You have your main problem to worry about in China as well. The war in the Pacific wasn't intended by the Japanese. They wanted the Dutch East Indies or Siberia to continue the war in China...

Oh well, the oil production would limit the size of the air fleet, but still, from the point of view of research, air tech should be priority #1.
even if tank divisions use less fuel I would still try to get the biggest possible air fleet.
 
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Seems to me its going to be preaty boring war.
 
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Originally posted by Fate
I wonder if Iwo Jima is on the map... if they have this island, then the map is pretty detailed :).

They probably have it, even though they might not have a bigger island in a less strategical location.
 

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Originally posted by Aetius
Sure, but how are going to get fuel to keep them all operational. You have your main problem to worry about in China as well. The war in the Pacific wasn't intended by the Japanese. They wanted the Dutch East Indies or Siberia to continue the war in China...

If the Soviet War in 1939 can be won, and the area defended, then lots of strategy and everything is done, then maybe Japan can get a chance at Siberia for resources for China war. With Mongolia under control, China would be more surrounded too.. And Japan would be in a very strategic position.

I was reading that in the Bolshivek (spelling?) Revolution in Russia, that the Japanese forces fought in Siberia and a large portion of it was captured. Afterwards, the U.S. and Britian feared Japan controlling these valuable resources, and so forced Japan to give the territory back to Russia. Japan did this, because a war with Britain and America may have occured if she didn't agree. And that wouldn't be good at the time, because Japan was not ready for that kind of war. I wonder what kinds of changes would have happened if Siberia was to remain under Japanese control. And U.S. and Britain didn't intervene... Hmm.. Perhaps if the Japanese are able to take Siberia early on in the war, and Russia isn't on very good terms with England and U.S. yet, enough resources can be gained to supply the troops in China. :)



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I wonder if Iwo Jima is on the map... if they have this island, then the map is pretty detailed :) .

Yes, very detailed. :) I hope that islands that were small yet played a large role in the war are included. :D Maybe it could atleast have the island chains. Like the Azores in EUII. So, the Ryukyu's and Kuril's and Aleutians could each be a province. :)


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Originally posted by Fate
I surely hope they don't simplify the chains into one province each. The war in the Pacific will go by too quickly if that's case.

Yes.. I know. :eek:

I am hoping for lots of islands. For two major reasons:

1: No Japanese defensive line, and the Allies will just have to sail right to Japan. No air bases either.

2: I don't want them to be chains into one province because it'll go by too fast (as you said) and it won't need as much strategy and soldiers to take the islands.

I am also hoping that some of those islands in the Solomons are connected to eachother. What I mean is so that you can walk from one island to another, without needing transports. Some of the islands were so close together that the water was shallow enough to walk through. The Americans were defeating the Japanese on one island (I don't remember which... :( ) and then they saw the Japanese soldiers wading through the water to the next island! :D They were very surprised and said that it looked like they were walking on water! I found this quite interesting and hope that it is incorporated into the game.

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Originally posted by Meiji-Tenno

I am also hoping that some of those islands in the Solomons are connected to eachother. What I mean is so that you can walk from one island to another, without needing transports. Some of the islands were so close together that the water was shallow enough to walk through. The Americans were defeating the Japanese on one island (I don't remember which... :( ) and then they saw the Japanese soldiers wading through the water to the next island! :D They were very surprised and said that it looked like they were walking on water! I found this quite interesting and hope that it is incorporated into the game.

I just looked up the name of the islands.. Bougainville and Shortland. I am not sure which one the Americans captured first, but I think that they were winning at Shortland, so the Japanese retreated by "walking over the water" to Bougainville. It was possible the other way around though. :D
 
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What makes you say that?
Cuz there is nothing Japan can do to win the war, at all.
If the Soviet War in 1939 can be won, and the area defended, then lots of strategy and everything is done, then maybe Japan can get a chance at Siberia for resources for China war. With Mongolia under control, China would be more surrounded too.. And Japan would be in a very strategic position.
How would controling Mongolia change anything? The Chinese got their supplies through Burma/India..
I wonder what kinds of changes would have happened if Siberia was to remain under Japanese control. And U.S. and Britain didn't intervene... Hmm.. Perhaps if the Japanese are able to take Siberia early on in the war, and Russia isn't on very good terms with England and U.S. yet, enough resources can be gained to supply the troops in China
What would that give you ? Nothing but a vast emptyness.