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Hi all, this is me again, and this time I'm going to make an AAR about my homeland. Expect no screenies before I hit 1942, as I hadn't planned to make this into an AAR.

So why do I post this? Well, I decided to play historically with belgium on normal/aggressive. This meant no early DOW on germany and no early joining the allies. By doing this, I found out something very interesting, of which you will hear more later.

It's been a while since I played this game, so early on I might miss some of the details of my game, but my strategy didn't fail (so far) and lent me a new insight in the AI.

Ok, off we go then...
 

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Introduction

Early 1936, Belgium was on a crossroads in it history. Many paths could lead to glory, but which one should it take?

On the diplomatic level, Belgium was in a predicament, squeezed between france and an increasingly belligerent germany. And forced to maintain good relations with both. The belgian people still remembered the atrocities of the first world war too well, as indeed, belgium had been part of the battlefield. Also, people remembered the germans as oppressors, and especially the burning of the university library of Leuven was seen as an innecessary act of violence. So it was clear that an aggression by germany would surely drive belgium into the arms of the entente allies.
However as it is, belgium could not simply join the allies as that would be seen as an aggressive stance and would certainly trigger a strong German response. And as it was, Germany was the military-industrial leader of continental europe, so it would not be wise to antagonize them.

On the level of interior politics, belgium was deeply divided by what initially was a language conflict. From the founding of belgium on, French had been the language of government, justice and administration. For wallony, this posed no real problem, but in Flanders, this meant most of the population never understood government decisions and further aggravated the already precarious social structure. At the turn of the century, this conflict had lead to riots in all of the large cities in flanders, but especially in Aalst, where a local catholic priest, Daens, led the people in their rage against social inequality. By the time the first world war started, Flemish language was gaining acceptance. However, during the war, Germany initiated its Flamenpolitik, in an attempt to further drive a wedge between the crippled belgian political system and its people. This had no real effect on first sight, but with added maltreatment of Flemish soldiers by French officers, the idea started to get a hold in the trenches. Halfway the 1930's, Flanders saw the rise of extreme rightist political party VNV, led by Staf De Clercq. In Wallony, Rex, led by Leon Degrelle was another more fascist orientated party that rose even faster, as it tried to offer fascism as a socio-economic alternative for the declining Wallon Industry.

both of these extreme rightist parties had gained significant support in the 1936 elections, as VNV gained 16 seats in parliament, while Rex won a staggering 21 seats. For a country where people vote centrist parties, this was a crushing blow to the political establishment. As both of these parties had gained support from Hitler and had now gained some power, the belgian government could not openly contest Hitler's policies anymore.

It was in these difficult the Belgian government had to hold its country afloat, trying to increase it's power as a leading industrial country.
 
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First to reply!

Interesting start. Two fascist party in one destablizing country will be cool to watch! :cool:
 

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I can't wait to hear that Belgian strategy! :D
 

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yeah, belgium is certainly a nice country to play, i have also made an AAR with fascist Belgium, is in my sig if you want to take a look...
 

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Been out of the commenting game for awhile now, and thought I would get my feet wet again with a new AAR. Had never read one on Belgium (though I did read a very good Dutch AAR), so this will be a new experience. Your opening comments also intrigued me. So...on with the show!
 

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As the belgian military evaluated it's starting position, some major issues became visible. The first one was a lack of manpower, which in the coming 10 years could lead to a complete depletion if a war of attrition was fought.
The second was a the complete lack of airforce and apart from a few transports, navy.
Some of the military commission were in favor of scrapping the transports, but most of the general staff thought they could be used to conceal their real troop strength as they could on very short notice ferry troops from congo back to the homeland. This also solved the issue of what to do with the colonial troops in case of war.
The airforce was deemed too expensive, so was pushed in the long run. From 1940 onwards, a focus on an airforce specialised in supporting troops and close range aircover was proposed, but until then, it was deemed that our industries could not build up land and airforces at the same time. An anyhow, whomever became our allie would have the planes to cover our airspace and would gladly do so to protect it's own airspace from incursions.

So the remaining problem was the very low to non-existent manpower. In 1936, belgium had a few infantrydivisions and two elite divisions of ardeense jagers, specialised in fighting in hilly, forested terrain. Manpower growth projections supported that, even with improved agricultural technology, no more than 9 extra divisions could be supported by 1940. This was far less than the projected military growth of France or Germany, so the general staff looked for alternative means of defense.
For many of the generals, this meant looking at the first world war, where belgium didn't suffer from the excessive losses of France or germany, due to being on a much more silent stretch of front. In the early 30's this had led to the building of Fort Eben-Emael on the german border, deemed inpenetrable. However, as some of the generals visited the maginot line, the french shield of democracy, this was much more advanced than Eben-Emael, both in its size and in its scope. In the maginot line, houses were transformed into MG-nests or sniper posts, or otherwise demolished to allow for a cleaner range of fire and allow no cover for the enemy.
However, belgian general staff did not believe a simple line of fortresses could hold, so a plan was devised that would make good use of Fortresses and natural means of defence against aggressors. The obvious line of Defense would be the Meuse-river and the Albert Canal, and both of these would have extensive in-depth fortifications behind them. In case of german breakthrough, each bridge had to be rigged for explosion to hamper german logistics. Especially the Cities of Antwerp, Liege and Namur would recieve monstrous fortifications. This line was deemed to be ready in 1940

Obviously this anti-german approach was met with disapproval by both the VNV and Rex. However, both of these parties could not openly support Hitler yet as the First war was still too fresh in memory. And just to be sure the general staff already made a plan for a second round of fortifications against the french border, using the many loose hills of the vlaamse ardennen, the west-flemish heuvelland.
This secondary line would also be connected to the namur fortress system and building this secondary line was projected to start somewhere after 1940, along with building the airforce.

One last issue, posed by the liberals was that it did not project on expanding the military-industrial complex. This was countered by the general staff by saying that from 1942 onward, industrial and infrastructural expansion of the colony in Congo should start. This should give the weapon industries of FN a chance to build factories close to their main source of metal and rubber.
 

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Fortresses are expensive and take time to build, but with your manpower issues I can see why the choice was made. What is Belgium's IC's at the start?
 

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I think his ic is 32,33.
But fortresses are the only way to go with a democratic belgium. Manpower is your biggest enemy so it is better to focus on more factorys the bare minimum in divisions and what has been a bonus in my games a great airforce. It does make for a very static game but you can get loads of help from the french since they will never fall.
 

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Indeed, IC was just above 30. I could put about 16-17 max on production.

Grayghost has found the main issue here. If I play historically, swift seizure of of manpowerrich lands are out of the question, I believe I had a growth of 0,03 manpower when I started, could have been 0,05 too.

anyhow, to gather 10 manpower at this rate takes about 200 days in the best case scenario and about a year in the worstcase scenario...
As I make my calculations, the 9 mentioned divisions seems a little optimistical though...

Anyhow:
Competition
There are two flaws in my strategy this far, point them out for 1 point each and propose on how to solve it for 1 point extra.

First one who gets the answer gets the point
 

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I don't know if these are the ones you meant, but I want to throw them in anyway as suggestions:

1) Liege. If you will only be able to have 12 divisions at max, having liege as a city with fortifications will be a burden. You will have to thinner the other two cities, so all of those will have less divisions to defend them. Also Liege is not behind a river, so if you loose that city, the Germans will have your forts. I think you should concentrate on Namur and Antwerp, as they are behind a river.

2) Why build fortifications on the French border? Better to fully concentrate on air power.

Maybe I will win some points :D
 

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You should make the line gent, antwerpen, Leige and Arlon leave bastonge it has no value. You need to get the third tech team as soon as possible and when you have the 1938 building tech start buidling forts. Yes, your manpower is going to couse you problems the whole time, but there is nothing you can do except research the agritechs.
 

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"yes holland is the problem

sollution: wack'em "

Well, as much fun as playing "Wacka-Dutch" would be, it really gets you nothing but more headaches.
1. The far east Dutch colonies are out of reach for Belgium, so annexation is out of the question.

2. It just lengthens your borders, doubling or even tripling your fortress/manpower issues.

3. And of course, the most salient point being, it is not historical, or even semi-historical. :)

I guess the problems are, how long do you spend buildiing factories? Do you build factories? When do you start building forts? How many do you want to build based on potential time constraints?

We know what the manpower limitations are, so unless you focus on agritech, or have a minister with the 25% manpower growth bonus, what is the most efficient use of your limited manpower? Tac Air? Air Superiority? CAS, or a combination of the above?

Or...do you build your factories in the Congo, retreat their when you are eventually overun and then fight from there. It was done successfully in the Dutch AAR that I mentioned in my first post. But, I know this has already been decided and we are just waiting for the outcome. :)
 

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Well, we have winners here:
Colonel Bran gets two points for solving both problems without naming them.
Indeed I should have built fortresses in Arlon and Ghent in the first place too and I should have abandoned the namur line. However, the reason I didn't was that I didn't really expect Liege to hold as it was the first time I ever used land forts. I believed I really needed the germans to get that river crossing penalty to be able to hold a line decently with a few divisions. This will also be reflected once we reach 1940 and my deployment plan is shown.
Krediax gets a point for pointing my main problem, it is indeed the dutch AI. I suppose they'll hold for about 6 days, and then german spearhead will coming knocking on my door at Ghent. With Ghent being almost unfortified, this will be trouble...

The second problem, which no one really named is that I left a gap at the ardennes. It is for historical reasons as it was thought the armored spearheads could not get through such a bad terrain. So no fortresses there for me...

So, current score:
Colonel Bran: 2
Krediax: 1
others: 0

And I have to thank Tornadoll for supporting my strategy, I thought indeed Namur-Antwerp would be my main line of defence. However, I had the IC and liege starts with 3 fortress stat, so I decided a fighting retreat across the meuse-river would be efficient. It turned out otherwise...


On other notes: I believe I did indeed start the game with two rounds of three factories, one in mons, one in namur and one round of four factories in ghent. Once the rounds of three factories were completed fortresses were started in Antwerp and Namur, and once the last factory was completed, I started expanding the liege factory. Spare production IC was then used to build me some extra infantry to hold the line with too

second: with any reasonable country, you'd propably mix militia into your holding forces. DON'T DO THIS WITH BELGIUM, because while militia are actually good defence units for its ICdays cost, Infantry are way better manpowerwise...
 
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on the wack-a-dutch point, if you can get a peace having them handover rotterdam, it would be nice. It seals off Ghent, is a swamp, surrounded by rivers, and connects to antwerp.

If you go the ahistorical way, that would be your ideal line of defence. However since I'm going the historical way, I'll have to do with Ghent for now.

An even nicer solution would be to multiplayer this, having a friend play with the netherlands and throwing up a line at rougly Eindhoven - Utrecht - Amsterdam (I'd say the plain provinces bordering germany are indefensible and should thus be abandoned). This would be quite historical as the main defense line would be behind some rivers, canals or even the Ijsselmeer. It is a known fact that dutch high command always tried to use some water as their mainline since the napoleontic wars or so...