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Bordic said:
And more, since Transylvania should be a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, why should the Turks still have cores on it, as you can see in this event three provinces are ceded back to Hungary as to let her become Transylvania and move her capital to province 323.
...

So your hypothesis that a liege having cores on the provinces of a vassal improves relations is obsolete?

One problem I see is that the Ottomans should lose those cores if Transsylvania owns them. However what is if neither Ottomans nor Hungary owned them and so neither Transsylvania nor Ottomans have them after the event? The event guarantees only the possession of the province of Transsylvania itself.

Should then only Transsylvania have cores or the Ottomans also?
 

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ConjurerDragon said:
So your hypothesis that a liege having cores on the provinces of a vassal improves relations is obsolete?
That is different. In order to inherit Hungary by event in 1540, the Ottomans have to keep Hungarian allegiance, while here Transylvania is formal vassal as much as Moldova and Wallachia. That is why I have also asked for the possibility to give to the Ottomans the cores on these two countries too.

One problem I see is that the Ottomans should lose those cores if Transsylvania owns them.
That is my proposal of modifying TUR_19019.

However what is if neither Ottomans nor Hungary owned them and so neither Transsylvania nor Ottomans have them after the event? The event guarantees only the possession of the province of Transsylvania itself.

Should then only Transsylvania have cores or the Ottomans also?
Well, in the same event (19019) the Ottomans give them back to Hungary before her tag change. Hungary should already have them, probably we should remove all 1419 Hungarian cores in HUN_19020 when Hungary becomes Transylvania except those three on Ruthenia, Maros and Transylvania.

However I can't say which changes we should have in other events related to the death of Zapolya.
 

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About post #281, only remaining question is ownership of Jedisan at start of 1520 scenario.

It is not easy to answer since area was not really controlled, as I understand the maps.

But we have the sequence STE_287003 A => CRI_152050 => TUR_301083 => CRI_152005 starting in 1500 and seceding Jedisan to OE if OE already owns Bujak.

Better solution is then ownership by OE (as it is in 1520 scenario) even if it wasn't exactly the case. Core granted becomes then confirmation of the control by OE.

Any thought?
 

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Bordic said:
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Well, in the same event (19019) the Ottomans give them back to Hungary before her tag change.

Yes, but if neither Hungary nor the Ottomans own them but someone else then the Ottomans won´t go after those provinces as they lack the cores. No big problem though.

Hungary should already have them, probably we should remove all 1419 Hungarian cores in HUN_19020 when Hungary becomes Transylvania except those three on Ruthenia, Maros and Transylvania.

However I can't say which changes we should have in other events related to the death of Zapolya.

Removing all cores except their 3 provinces is not good for Transsylvania - they should try to reconquer the remains of Hungary from the Austrians. After all SIE can become Hungary if it owns those cores.
 

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ConjurerDragon said:
Yes, but if neither Hungary nor the Ottomans own them but someone else then the Ottomans won´t go after those provinces as they lack the cores. No big problem though.
Valachia and Moldova are vassal too, but no core is on them, however...

Yes, probably we shouldn't remove these core on Transylvania with my suggestion to modify TUR_19019 and let it stay as it is. But I also need to know othre comments before any submission.

Removing all cores except their 3 provinces is not good for Transsylvania - they should try to reconquer the remains of Hungary from the Austrians. After all SIE can become Hungary if it owns those cores.
OK.
 

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#(1574) The Conquests of Murad III
event = {
id = 301007
trigger = {
event = 3360 #TUR: Turko-Persian Conflicts: Shiite rebels
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301007" #The Conquests of Murad III
desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
#-#By the time of Murad III, the Empire had stretched beyond its natural limits. Azerbaijan and Daghestan were added to the Empire, but only for twenty years, though the Ottomans would despute control with Persia until 1639.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1574 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301007A" #Reaching the limits
command = { type = addcore which = 486 } #Nuyssaybin
command = { type = addcore which = 508 } #Basrah
command = { type = addcore which = 471 } #Daghestan
command = { type = addcore which = 487 } #Azerbaijan
command = { type = addcore which = 322 } #Wallachia
#command = { type = AI which = TUR_MuradIII.ai }
}
}

no addcore found on wallachia for TUR, so recommend above.........this should continue to 1820
 

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Should Ottomans really annex Wallachia? Shouldn't Wallachia only become vassals of OE?

See Wallachian events.
 

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As I posted before, in doing with we should also add a core on Moldova (318). Both provinces are without TUR cores, if corresponding countries exists it's ok, but let's say that Poland or Austria conquer them?
 

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YodaMaster said:
Should Ottomans really annex Wallachia? Shouldn't Wallachia only become vassals of OE?

See Wallachian events.

yep, i read them

between 1508 is a vassalation then nothing to 1601...

the 1601 ......option A is a vassalation
option B is a war

next event is 1682
#(1682-1688) Sherban Cantacuzino
event = {
id = 301080 #triggered by WAL_329036 B
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME329036" #Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
desc = "EVENTHIST329036"
#-#In 1683 the Ottoman Empire once again marched its armies towards the centre of Europe, laying siege to Vienna. Alongside the Turkish forces, there were Wallachian regiments led by Prince Sherban Cantacuzino (1679-1688), descendant of the illustrious greek family. Reluctant to aid the Turks against his Christian brothers, Sherban secretly aided the Holy League who, in turn, following the crushing victories over the Ottomans, promised him the mantle of the Eastern Roman Empire to which he was entitled by descent. Sherban died in 1688, probably poisoned on the orders of the Ottoman Sultan.

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301080A" #Wallachia is our ally
command = { type = alliance which = WAL }
command = { }
}
}

Is this a weird event, it should be relations only ........at best

actually , i would like it to be removed.........
 

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Toio said:
yep, i read them

between 1508 is a vassalation then nothing to 1601...

the 1601 ......option A is a vassalation
option B is a war

next event is 1682
#(1682-1688) Sherban Cantacuzino
event = {
id = 301080 #triggered by WAL_329036 B
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME329036" #Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
desc = "EVENTHIST329036"
#-#In 1683 the Ottoman Empire once again marched its armies towards the centre of Europe, laying siege to Vienna. Alongside the Turkish forces, there were Wallachian regiments led by Prince Sherban Cantacuzino (1679-1688), descendant of the illustrious greek family. Reluctant to aid the Turks against his Christian brothers, Sherban secretly aided the Holy League who, in turn, following the crushing victories over the Ottomans, promised him the mantle of the Eastern Roman Empire to which he was entitled by descent. Sherban died in 1688, probably poisoned on the orders of the Ottoman Sultan.

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301080A" #Wallachia is our ally
command = { type = alliance which = WAL }
command = { }
}
}

Is this a weird event, it should be relations only ........at best

actually , i would like it to be removed.........

The alliance command in many cases simply won´t work because the country already is in an alliance or the other country is not the leader of it´s alliance as far as I remember. So that command might have no effect.
 

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Bordic said:
As I posted before, in doing with we should also add a core on Moldova (318). Both provinces are without TUR cores, if corresponding countries exists it's ok, but let's say that Poland or Austria conquer them?

Then I suggest that we grant Ottoman cores on Wallachia and Moldavia in a new event which triggers only if

-WAL/MOL don´t exist and are not owned by TUR but some other nation (the Ottomans should try to vassalize WAL and MOL but not try to capture wrong-culture, wrong-religion provinces).
- and if TUR owns and controls the neighbouring provinces to have landaccess to the provinces - else they should concentrate on their other cores
- the Treaty of Karlowitz has NOT happened. After the treaty of Karlowitz the Ottomans are supposed to slowly lose control of the Balkan and after that they should not gain a new core there.

And should the Ottomans actually conquer WAL/MOl I suggest to have an event in which TUR has to decide if they want to grant them semi-independece as a vassal (A) or keep them as their own (B). After all even in event TUR 25007 both are mentioned as having kept some independace despite being in the ottoman powersphere.

There is no trigger to check if WAL/MOL are vassals of "someone else than TUR" except by checking for every single possible liege?
 

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ConjurerDragon said:
Then I suggest that we grant Ottoman cores on Wallachia and Moldavia in a new event which triggers only if

-WAL/MOL don´t exist and are not owned by TUR but some other nation (the Ottomans should try to vassalize WAL and MOL but not try to capture wrong-culture, wrong-religion provinces).
- and if TUR owns and controls the neighbouring provinces to have landaccess to the provinces - else they should concentrate on their other cores
- the Treaty of Karlowitz has NOT happened. After the treaty of Karlowitz the Ottomans are supposed to slowly lose control of the Balkan and after that they should not gain a new core there.

And should the Ottomans actually conquer WAL/MOl I suggest to have an event in which TUR has to decide if they want to grant them semi-independece as a vassal (A) or keep them as their own (B). After all even in event TUR 25007 both are mentioned as having kept some independace despite being in the ottoman powersphere.

There is no trigger to check if WAL/MOL are vassals of "someone else than TUR" except by checking for every single possible liege?

your idea is fine if MOL and WAL do not exist, then we should give cores to TUR

the semi -independence business of WAL was going on for about 100 years, the TUR just got sick of it and overran wallachia
designs for independence from Ottoman rule were crushed by the troops of Mehmed IV in 1658-1659

in regards to cores in general.....they should be removed (or added) as per history.........so the TUR should loose the core reflected in historical maps of the time

in regards to WAL and MOL.........if they do not exist then something like this is required?

#(1574) The Conquests of Murad III
event = {
id = new
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = WAL }
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301007" #The Conquests of Murad III
desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
#-#By the time of Murad III, the Empire had stretched beyond its natural limits. Azerbaijan and Daghestan were added to the Empire, but only for twenty years, though the Ottomans would despute control with Persia until 1639.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1574 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301007A" #Reaching the limits
command = { type = addcore which = 322 } #Wallachia
}
}

#(1574) The Conquests of Murad III
event = {
id = new
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = MOL }
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301007" #The Conquests of Murad III
desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
#-#By the time of Murad III, the Empire had stretched beyond its natural limits. Azerbaijan and Daghestan were added to the Empire, but only for twenty years, though the Ottomans would despute control with Persia until 1639.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1574 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301007A" #Reaching the limits
command = { type = addcore which = 318 } #Moldova
command = { type = addcore which = 319 } #Bujak
}
}

of course these new events will need a clean up on text description etc
 
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ConjurerDragon said:
The alliance command in many cases simply won´t work because the country already is in an alliance or the other country is not the leader of it´s alliance as far as I remember. So that command might have no effect.

Fair enough, but this is a fairy tale event, an event that leads to nothing.........it seems its an event to keep WAL in existance

I think we can remove it
 

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#(1699-1780) The Treaty of Karlowitz
event = {
id = 301015
trigger = {
NOT = {
OR = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 353 data = -1 } #Pest
AND = {
owned = { province = 353 data = SIE } #Pest
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 353 data = HUN } #Pest
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 365 data = -1 } #Dalmatia
AND = {
owned = { province = 365 data = SIE } #Dalmatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 365 data = HUN } #Dalmatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 366 data = -1 } #Croatia
AND = {
owned = { province = 366 data = SIE } #Croatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 366 data = HUN } #Croatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 323 data = -1 } #Transylvania
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = SIE } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = HUN } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = WAL } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = WAL }
neighbour = WAL
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 324 data = -1 } #Maros
AND = {
owned = { province = 324 data = SIE } #Maros
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 324 data = HUN } #Maros
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 325 data = -1 } #Magyar
AND = {
owned = { province = 325 data = SIE } #Magyar
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 325 data = HUN } #Magyar
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
}
}
core = { province = 353 data = -1 } #OE has cores on Hungary
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301015" #The Treaty of Karlowitz
desc = "EVENTHIST301015"
#-#Having been defeated decisively by a coalition of Austria, Russia, Poland and Venice and lost control over large chunks of the Balkan, the Ottoman Empire was forced to sign a humiliating peace treaty in 1699 in the Serbian city of Karlowitz. All Hungary except the Banat of Temesvar, Croatia and Slavonia were ceded to Austria, Podolia to Poland, Dalmatia and the Peloponnesus to Venice. Russia got Azov in a separate treaty signed in 1700. Except for Greece, none of these losses was ever recovered permanently. The disintegration of the Empire had begun.

date = { day = 26 month = january year = 1699 }
offset = 200
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1780 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301015A" #The Empire is doomed
command = { type = removecore which = 296 } #Jedisan
command = { type = removecore which = 297 } #Podolia
command = { type = removecore which = 316 } #Carpathia
command = { type = removecore which = 317 } #Ruthenia
command = { type = removecore which = 323 } #Transylvania
command = { type = removecore which = 324 } #Maros
command = { type = removecore which = 325 } #Magyar
command = { type = removecore which = 326 } #Presburg
command = { type = removecore which = 351 } #Austria
command = { type = removecore which = 352 } #Odenburg
command = { type = removecore which = 353 } #Pest
command = { type = removecore which = 365 } #Dalmatia
command = { type = removecore which = 366 } #Croatia
command = { type = removecore which = 362 } #Ragusa
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = syrian }
}
}
 

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Toio said:
#(1699-1780) The Treaty of Karlowitz
event = {
id = 301015
trigger = {
NOT = {
OR = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 353 data = -1 } #Pest
AND = {
owned = { province = 353 data = SIE } #Pest
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 353 data = HUN } #Pest
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 365 data = -1 } #Dalmatia
AND = {
owned = { province = 365 data = SIE } #Dalmatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 365 data = HUN } #Dalmatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 366 data = -1 } #Croatia
AND = {
owned = { province = 366 data = SIE } #Croatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 366 data = HUN } #Croatia
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 323 data = -1 } #Transylvania
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = SIE } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = HUN } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 323 data = WAL } #Transylvania
vassal = { country = TUR country = WAL }
neighbour = WAL
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 324 data = -1 } #Maros
AND = {
owned = { province = 324 data = SIE } #Maros
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 324 data = HUN } #Maros
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 325 data = -1 } #Magyar
AND = {
owned = { province = 325 data = SIE } #Magyar
vassal = { country = TUR country = SIE }
neighbour = SIE
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 325 data = HUN } #Magyar
vassal = { country = TUR country = HUN }
neighbour = HUN
}
}
}
}
core = { province = 353 data = -1 } #OE has cores on Hungary
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301015" #The Treaty of Karlowitz
desc = "EVENTHIST301015"
#-#Having been defeated decisively by a coalition of Austria, Russia, Poland and Venice and lost control over large chunks of the Balkan, the Ottoman Empire was forced to sign a humiliating peace treaty in 1699 in the Serbian city of Karlowitz. All Hungary except the Banat of Temesvar, Croatia and Slavonia were ceded to Austria, Podolia to Poland, Dalmatia and the Peloponnesus to Venice. Russia got Azov in a separate treaty signed in 1700. Except for Greece, none of these losses was ever recovered permanently. The disintegration of the Empire had begun.

date = { day = 26 month = january year = 1699 }
offset = 200
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1780 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301015A" #The Empire is doomed
command = { type = removecore which = 296 } #Jedisan
command = { type = removecore which = 297 } #Podolia
command = { type = removecore which = 316 } #Carpathia
command = { type = removecore which = 317 } #Ruthenia
command = { type = removecore which = 323 } #Transylvania
command = { type = removecore which = 324 } #Maros
command = { type = removecore which = 325 } #Magyar
command = { type = removecore which = 326 } #Presburg
command = { type = removecore which = 351 } #Austria
command = { type = removecore which = 352 } #Odenburg
command = { type = removecore which = 353 } #Pest
command = { type = removecore which = 365 } #Dalmatia
command = { type = removecore which = 366 } #Croatia
command = { type = removecore which = 362 } #Ragusa
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = syrian }
}
}

If we add cores on Wallachia and Moldavia under conditions - should then those not also be removed by Karlowitz?
 

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Toio said:
your idea is fine if MOL and WAL do not exist, then we should give cores to TUR

the semi -independence business of WAL was going on for about 100 years, the TUR just got sick of it and overran wallachia
designs for independence from Ottoman rule were crushed by the troops of Mehmed IV in 1658-1659

in regards to cores in general.....they should be removed (or added) as per history.........so the TUR should loose the core reflected in historical maps of the time

in regards to WAL and MOL.........if they do not exist then something like this is required?

#(1574) The Conquests of Murad III
event = {
id = new
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = WAL }
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301007" #The Conquests of Murad III
desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
#-#By the time of Murad III, the Empire had stretched beyond its natural limits. Azerbaijan and Daghestan were added to the Empire, but only for twenty years, though the Ottomans would despute control with Persia until 1639.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1574 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301007A" #Reaching the limits
command = { type = addcore which = 322 } #Wallachia
}
}

#(1574) The Conquests of Murad III
event = {
id = new
trigger = {
NOT = { exists = MOL }
}
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME301007" #The Conquests of Murad III
desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
#-#By the time of Murad III, the Empire had stretched beyond its natural limits. Azerbaijan and Daghestan were added to the Empire, but only for twenty years, though the Ottomans would despute control with Persia until 1639.

date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1574 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME301007A" #Reaching the limits
command = { type = addcore which = 318 } #Moldova
command = { type = addcore which = 319 } #Bujak
}
}

of course these new events will need a clean up on text description etc

The ottomans already have a core on Bujak. They gain it with TUR 301003 in 1481.

I would also suggest another line for the trigger:
NOT = { event = 301015 } #TUR: Karlowitz losing cores on half of the Balkans

instead of a deathdate the addcore for WAL and MOL should no more happen if the Ottomans lose their grip on all the surrounding provinces.
 

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I don't know what to do with TUR_301080 but it is only the result of action_b in WAL_329036:
Code:
#(1682-1688) Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
event = {
	id = 329036
	trigger = {
		war = { country = TUR country = HAB }
		vassal = { country = TUR country = WAL }
	}
	random = no
	country = WAL
	name = "EVENTNAME329036" #Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
	desc = "EVENTHIST329036"
	#-#

	date = { month = january year = 1682 }
	offset = 5
	deathdate = { day = 8 month = november year = 1688 } #death of Sherban Cantacuzino

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME329036A" #Pretend to fight, but secretly support the League
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
		command = { type = diplomats value = 3 }
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = -50 }
		command = { type = domestic which = QUALITY value = 1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 179097 } #HAB: Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME329036B" #Support the Ottomans at all cost
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -50 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 50 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 301080 } #TUR: Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 179097 } #HAB: Sherban Cantacuzino and the siege of Vienna
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME329036C" #Openly side with the Christian powers!
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = breakvassal which = TUR }
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
		command = { type = domestic which = QUALITY value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 1 }
	}
}
#-#In 1683 the Ottoman Empire once again marched its armies towards the centre of Europe, laying siege to Vienna. Alongside the Turkish forces, there were Wallachian regiments led by Prince Sherban Cantacuzino (1679-1688), descendant of the illustrious greek family. Reluctant to aid the Turks against his Christian brothers, Sherban secretly aided the Holy League who, in turn, following the crushing victories over the Ottomans, promised him the mantle of the Eastern Roman Empire to which he was entitled by descent. Sherban died in 1688, probably poisoned on the orders of the Ottoman Sultan.

I don't see where is the problem in seing OE trying to keep Wallachia in its alliance since Wallachia should be vassal. I see it as a safety event to protect Wallachia but not exactly the historical choice.

Ok for Ragusa involved in TUR_301015.

Ok for the idea of the new events and core on Wallachia and Moldova + Bujak (even if this one is granted in 1481)
But what will happen if Moldavia or Wallachia disappear just the day after the event? Better have contextual events for "Wallachia is Turkish vassal" and "Moldavia is Turkish vassal" granting cores as soon as each country doesn't exist (even if provinces are owned by OE). Only question is startdate and deathdate. In this case, proposed condition of 301015 in trigger could be added but only if deathdate is chosen after Karlowitz in 1699.

Of course, Karlowitz should remove the two extra cores (Wallachia and Moldova but not Bujak) even if they were never granted before.
 

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ConjurerDragon said:
There is no trigger to check if WAL/MOL are vassals of "someone else than TUR" except by checking for every single possible liege?
Yes, only vassal of a named country... Easy, isn't it?
 

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Core removal

In case that Kasr-i-Sirin aka the Treaty of Zuhab does not fire or "no treaty" is selected in the C choice we need another event to remove the ottoman cores on Dagestan and Azerbaijan.

They are added in event TUR301007 in 1574 and the text there mentions that they were held only for 20 years but disputed until 1639.

I suggest an event like this:

Code:
#(1639-1820) We Have Failed to retain our easternmost outposts
event = {
	id = 301128
	trigger = {
                NOT = {
		   OR = {
		      owned = { province = 471 data = -1 } #Daghestan
		      owned = { province = 487 data = -1 } #Azerbaijan
		       		}
 			}
	core = { province = 471 data = TUR } # to prevent the event from firing if the cores have already been removed by Kasr-i-Sirin
		}
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301128" #We Have Failed to Retain our easternmost outposts
	desc = "EVENTHIST301007"
	#-#

	date = { day = 17 month = may year = 1639 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { year = 1820 }

	action_a = {
		name = "DAMN" #We have failed
		command = { type = removecore which = 471 } #Daghestan
		command = { type = removecore which = 487 } #Azerjaijan
		  }
	}

Edit: { I hate brackets. }

Edit: Moved back startdate to 1639
 
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