Hey, I've been playing Kaiserreich and I noticed the Jewish revolt happening in Palestine/Israel under Ottoman Control.
I believe it is a bit unlikely an all-out revolt would happen unless there's a very clear catalyst for this:
- I assume the Jewish population in Ottoman Palestine is relatively small, only later in the game do I read about the possibility of North African Jews to emigrate from National France
- I doubt the Ottoman Empire would allow Jews in the Middle East to travel to Palestine in larger numbers
- There is no record of Jewish emigration from Europe (except from the given fact there were Zionist settlements in the 30s), although perhaps a few National Populist regimes in Eastern Europe could lead to this. But if Jews in Germany are as patriotic as they were in WW1, I guess they have kept the same patriotic attitude towards the German Empire.
- The Arab majority in Palestine will be opposed to a Jewish revolt unless influential sheikhs can see themselves getting better from it: just like Arab landowners sometimes sold many dunams of land to Zionist pioneers.
Without a large local population, like the Kurds, wouldn't an all-out revolt be a bit too much? If something like a Jewish paramilitary wing would be established, wouldn't it be more likely for them to conduct small scale operations which could for instance target the provinces' infrastructure / IC or even a rise in dissent?
Or am I wrong to assume the Jewish population in Palestine is - compared to the others - small?
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On to another Ottoman province. I am surprised there is not one event for the Lebanon. The situation in this area would be quite different from the general Arab revolution. Although the Ottomans probably consider Lebanon-Syria as one province, Lebanon already exists in the mind of many of the locals. The late 30s gave rise to the Lebanese national awakening, and with the National Populist regimes in Europe there's no doubt the Western-oriented Christians will have taken notice of all this. In 1861 the Ottomans already established a semi-autonomous area in Mount Lebanon and no doubt Lebanese, particularly Maronite Christians, will have demanded more independence from that point onwards. The semi-autonomous region even had its own more or less military units.
Also given the fact the communities in the Lebanon have been historically fragile to foreign influence perhaps some foreign powers (National France?) could show support of them?
If anything the political turmoil in Lebanon, as a separate situation from general Arab revolts (as the Lebanese case was not a pan-Arab one) should have its effect on the Ottoman Empire. Perhaps:
- demonstrations, dissent?
- loss of cores?
- possibility of independence for the Lebanon?
- foreign intervention?
- the Arab revolt should also reach Lebanon as Lebanon in the 30s was more educated and developed than most of the Middle East and therefore likely to have political turmoil under the Ottoman Regime.
Just some thoughts.
I believe it is a bit unlikely an all-out revolt would happen unless there's a very clear catalyst for this:
- I assume the Jewish population in Ottoman Palestine is relatively small, only later in the game do I read about the possibility of North African Jews to emigrate from National France
- I doubt the Ottoman Empire would allow Jews in the Middle East to travel to Palestine in larger numbers
- There is no record of Jewish emigration from Europe (except from the given fact there were Zionist settlements in the 30s), although perhaps a few National Populist regimes in Eastern Europe could lead to this. But if Jews in Germany are as patriotic as they were in WW1, I guess they have kept the same patriotic attitude towards the German Empire.
- The Arab majority in Palestine will be opposed to a Jewish revolt unless influential sheikhs can see themselves getting better from it: just like Arab landowners sometimes sold many dunams of land to Zionist pioneers.
Without a large local population, like the Kurds, wouldn't an all-out revolt be a bit too much? If something like a Jewish paramilitary wing would be established, wouldn't it be more likely for them to conduct small scale operations which could for instance target the provinces' infrastructure / IC or even a rise in dissent?
Or am I wrong to assume the Jewish population in Palestine is - compared to the others - small?
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On to another Ottoman province. I am surprised there is not one event for the Lebanon. The situation in this area would be quite different from the general Arab revolution. Although the Ottomans probably consider Lebanon-Syria as one province, Lebanon already exists in the mind of many of the locals. The late 30s gave rise to the Lebanese national awakening, and with the National Populist regimes in Europe there's no doubt the Western-oriented Christians will have taken notice of all this. In 1861 the Ottomans already established a semi-autonomous area in Mount Lebanon and no doubt Lebanese, particularly Maronite Christians, will have demanded more independence from that point onwards. The semi-autonomous region even had its own more or less military units.
Also given the fact the communities in the Lebanon have been historically fragile to foreign influence perhaps some foreign powers (National France?) could show support of them?
If anything the political turmoil in Lebanon, as a separate situation from general Arab revolts (as the Lebanese case was not a pan-Arab one) should have its effect on the Ottoman Empire. Perhaps:
- demonstrations, dissent?
- loss of cores?
- possibility of independence for the Lebanon?
- foreign intervention?
- the Arab revolt should also reach Lebanon as Lebanon in the 30s was more educated and developed than most of the Middle East and therefore likely to have political turmoil under the Ottoman Regime.
Just some thoughts.
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