- Dec 11, 2010
Thank you for moving to support Linux.
The realm rejoices as Paradox Interactive announces the launch of Crusader Kings III, the latest entry in the publisher’s grand strategy role-playing game franchise. Advisors may now jockey for positions of influence and adversaries should save their schemes for another day, because on this day Crusader Kings III can be purchased on Steam, the Paradox Store, and other major online retailers.
The answer from Podcat:Will Paradox move from DirectX to OpenGL?
Now, almost three years later we will have Paradox games running nativley under Linux. A small step for mankind, a big step for me.I could write a long angry text about what I think about the OpenGL review board and how they have handled stuff lately but it would prob bore most people here. I dont have very high hopes for the future of OGL sadly, I prefer it as an API despite some of the more horrible stuff.
- supporting GL is a lot harder. there are A TON more bugs to deal with and driver quality is atrocious for anything outside the newest nvidia and ati (they have gotten a lot better!)
- hardly any helpful tools and libraries (you got a lot of nice stuff with the DX world)
- Linux players who actually feel like paying for games tend to just use wine/cedega (or what its called these days) which has always run fine for me.
- Mac ports (being a mac user myself) would of course be easier if we did everything with GL, but we have another company who handles most of that stuff for us and it seems to work fine.
Indeed, that was a fast change, 2010 was not very long ago. And the major change allowing this seems to have been the decision to move the Mac port in house. No idea if it was Steam for Mac, growth of the tablet market, or growth of Mac market share which prompted this decision. Whatever it was I, as a Linux user, approve.The world moves fast forward.
Well, a lot of the things Podcat was rightfully complaining about back then are still true - OpenGL support by hardware manufacturers is still second grade, even (especially?) for the windows drivers...The world moves fast forward. April 2010 I ask paradox this question:
The answer from Podcat:
Now, almost three years later we will have Paradox games running nativley under Linux. A small step for mankind, a big step for me.
If more people develop for it, though, it presumably will become a higher priority for the hardware companies?Well, a lot of the things Podcat was rightfully complaining about back then are still true - OpenGL support by hardware manufacturers is still second grade, even (especially?) for the windows drivers...
I emailed GG and they said the following (about CK2 and linux support):Balor said:Steam only. Gg has no linux tech at the moment, and considering they got no programmers on the payroll, i suspect a linux install-system would not br something that is coming soon.
They do indeed have linux support, I checked for Unity of Command and there is a small "download linux version" button but there is zero advertisement on the game page itself or anywhere in the store for that matter. In light of this I hope that Paradox will consider distributing their linux binaries to GG. They don't seem to have a problem with it. Maybe someone from PDS will see this and reconsider their decision. I'll admit that it's a little late for a Christmas present but I'm not big on tradition anywaysWhen there is a Linux version of the game, and the publishers offer it, we actually distribute Linux games as well, but we dont have a filter for it or show it very well for the moment, no.
As far as I know Paradox doesnt have a Linux version of CK2 and GG are only using original versions.
Looks like this might actually happen, I never thought I would see the day. Steam for Linux has already made the proprietary Linux drivers improve. Both nvidia and Intel drivers have improved substantially.Now I just hope for a positive feedback loop between new games being ported to linux and the quality of the 3D drivers. Hopefully at some point even the free drivers will be good enough to run those games at a decent speed.
yeah there hasnt really been much improvement for development tools, so its still much more of a hassle to track down bugs on non windows platforms. So going OpenGL only makes no sense.Well, a lot of the things Podcat was rightfully complaining about back then are still true - OpenGL support by hardware manufacturers is still second grade, even (especially?) for the windows drivers...
I can't see that happen since they aren't new releases anymore. At least Victoria runs on Mac, though not supported by PDS directly. Who knows what TW will do with Mount and Blade 2 but that's not a PDS game.i dream about Victoria series and Mount and Blade for Mac and Linux....