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Excellent again!

From a story viewpoint, the surprise appearance of an English army in from of the walls of Caen is a great way to end this instalment and keep us hanging...

...but presumably from a gameplay viewpoint you knew that they were there since they engaged you (or visa versa) on the day you arrived sp you could have aborted the march.

Out of curiousity, what's your "peace %" with England right now?

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Re your reply to my realier questions:

Doh! I'm 2x a FOOL!!!:rolleyes: :D
 

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Arrg! I missed your last installment! *grumble*

Great job on both of those, who cares if you "cheated" :) I used to do that all of the time while playing EU1... err, I mean, I thought about it... :eek::D

I really hope you can wrest a province or two out of England before you make peace. You deserve it, after all of those insults they've sent you ;)
 

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Blackmamuth:
Thou mayest. Doest thou know how to genuflect? If not, report to a couple of Mad Spanish Cardinals for instruction!

Seriously, as Dyrlac said, turbo annexing is not an option...
Thanks! :)

Dyrlac: thanks! :)

MrT:Damn you - I actually had to try and recollect what really happened - opposed to seeing the auto notes and just string together a story! ;)

I have a vague - operative word here is vague - recollection (after much energy spent on booting up the long term memory server and searching through its fragmented and incomplete archive…) seeing the English coming from Caux across the river. Thus the plan – if I had one – was to get there first to have the across-river-defensive-bonus (which I needed). It didn’t work apparently.

If only I had remembered this earlier…(perhaps I can do something about it.)

Sharur: as usual – thanks! :)
 

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strange, why haven't you simply taken Amsterdam, Netherlands, Flanders and Artois as it's normally done vs Burgundy ? it's only 92%, so after you bring them down to -3 stab, you shan't have any problems :) believe me, i've done this thing with a number of one-prov minors in the are, including Orleans ;)

best regards,

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A short update before a company summer party...

The Battle of Caen, 30th of January 1428.

“Where the hell did they come from?” Duke Charles yelled over the carnage.

“Probably from Caux. The English forces in Dijon is still there – Caux is one of the provinces we don’t know about.”

“Damn,” Duke Charles exclaimed. “We came too late – if only…bah. Too late. Right, Jacques you have the left wing. I take the right. Antoine, you’ll lead the foot. Seneschal, reserve. Move, gents, we have work to do!”

Indeed we did. Antoine organised the defence of the foot by making sure everyone in the frontline had shields thus minimising the damage from the arrows. Even so, we lost scores of men from each volley. He pushed men forward to pick up shields from fallen comrades to keep the shield line intact. Being busy, I took over the crossbowmen and tried to get them to fire back. The English were at the limit of our weapons, so we didn’t do much damage.

The left wing under Connétable de Monet met the charging English just alongside our foot without managing to build up any real momentum and thus fared badly. Connétable de Monet was unhorsed on the first pass and as he was struggling to raise up again an English knight ran him through with his lance. He screamed and toppled – never to rise up again. The left wing – seeing their commander dead – now broke and ran away. A few even made it back to Orleans.

The right wing under Duke Charles fared only marginally better. Duke Charles survived the first pass, but lost a lot of men. On the second something hit him on the head and he too tumbled to the ground. He was immediately surrounded by scored of English knights, so he was probably alive, but a prisoner of the hated English.

Our surviving knights rallied together on the far side of the battlefield and gallantly attempted to liberate him, but the charge ended in disaster. The flower of Orleans’ noble knights lost their life here today. A few rode away in shame.

Now that our knights were gone, the English readied their knights for a charge against our foot. Antoine tried desperately to get the foot into a formation capable of withstanding a cavalry charge, but nothing worked as supposed today. It was always a case of too little too late.

The English knights came thundering over the battlefield and crashed into our line. For a short while it looked like our pikemen should be able to stand tall, but then the line broke and the English knights ran over men into the ground. A few pockets of resistance stubbornly resisted the inevitable – I saw Antoine in the middle of it, before I lost sight of him to the thickening fog.

The rain continued to pour and the already wet ground turned muddy and the blood turned it red. The fallen soldiers lay where they had fallen – many screaming for help. No one had the time or the inclination to help in the middle a battle. This was undoubtedly the forecourt of Hell.

A dozen or so of English knights surrounded my horse with their lances levelled against me. It was a most uncomfortable moment. Slowly, I raised my hands and removed the helmet and threw it at the ground. “I surrender,” I said brokenly.

“Good,” a familiar voice said removing his helmet as well. “Don’t worry, Seneschal, you will be treated correctly,” Sir John said.

“Right up to the moment we hang you,” another one snickered.

Sir John turned his horse towards the offender. “Apologise, Sir Edward, or feel my wrath. Raphael de Coucy, Baron of Montargis, is the Seneschal of the Duke of Orleans and he has honourable surrendered to us on a battlefield. His life is now sacrosanct in our company – provided he obeys the rules – which I’m sure he will.”

I nodded.

The offending knight apologised – very insincerely I felt, but I shrugged it off – what else could I do? – and was escorted to the English camp under strict guard. A new life – I felt – began today…

* * * * *

[the auto notes:
30 January 1428 : We lost a battle against England in Normandie.]
 

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bad news from the front father!!

-Conneteable de monnet dead; senescal of coucy captured; duke charles and antoine missing in action.... what we will do?

blackmamuth asked in the ducal palace of orleans nerly crying.

-shut up!! wait until we have more news; but my son you may need to ask our men to get ready... hehe i bet you curse the day you acknowledged duke charles as your master... I warned you about being too impulsive; look what you have done to our familiy!!! i curse the day I Asked you to take the control of the family... if I were 20 years younger....

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Avocado Aguila:
I did say I cheated a little - namely using reloads.

I tried multiple times to do exactly what you suggest, but it proved impossible to get Burgundy's stability down fast enough before the English yet again liberates Dijon and screws up the percentage. The English army furthermore refused to move away from Bourgogne and when I tried to make it move...suffice to say, it was not pretty.
And after 9 years of war, I desperately wanted peace…

HJ Tulp and Sharur: Good… ;)

To comment a little further: Let’s just say, this is one event I do remember from playing two months ago and I tied Comte de Monet’s death to it almost from the start. (Mind you, the other three main character deaths are also almost planned already: Duke Charles – whenever in game; the Seneschal – badly; Antoine – unplanned, probably at the same time as the Seneschal.)

Blackmamuth: thanks for the scene – don’t be surprised if… ;)
 

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I fear that this will not bode well for your future ability to negotiate peace with the English. After all the effort you've gone through to get Flanders it would be a tradegy to have to give it to the English. Perhaps there will be a daring raid to rescue you and the Duke (he says hopefully).
 

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I was taken to the English camp and showed inside a lavish tent. A large group of armoured men stood arranged in a half-circle with a seated grandee in the middle. This great lord was clad in steel with surcoat in the English colours with some large lions depicted climbing up his body. He didn’t bother to stand. “I am Thomas, Duke of Clarence and uncle to King Henry. And you are?”

“Raphael de Coucy, Baron of Montargis, your grace,” I said struggling not to show emotions. Of all the English army commanders in the world why did I have to be captured by the last living brother of Henry V?

“Ah yes, Seneschal to the fallen Duke Charles of Orleans and not to forget, the murderer of Duke Jean of Burgundy.”

“I did not murder Duke Jean,” I said heatedly. “He died of a natural decease. Just ask your man Sir John, my capturerer, he was there!”

“I know he was, but Sir John isn’t the most trustworthy chap in my entourage.”

I shrugged. “If you say so. I don’t know the men you surround yourself with, but as long as he stayed with us, Sir John was the very embodiment of a true knight.”

The Duke of Clarence grimaced. “Hmmm. Now then, you will have to be my guest for awhile, until matters are sorted out. Sir John, take the prisoner to the castle of Caen and hold him there until further notice.”

“What about Duke Charles?” I cried.

“He’s under treatment with the surgeons and the blacksmiths. I don’t expect he will live through the night – so don’t keep your hopes up.”

“Blacksmiths?”

“To remove the armour – it was badly dented.”

“Oh, I see…anyway, I want to see him.”

“No.”

“But…”

“I said no…Guards! – show him to his cell.”

* * * * *

When the news of the disaster reached Orleans, a panic broke out in the city and the city guards had problems controlling the masses. A full-scale riot was soon underway. The nervous guards sealed the ducal palace locking every noble not away with the army inside.

“Bad news from the front father! Connétable de Monet dead; Seneschal de Coucy captured; Duke Charles and Antoine de Melun are missing in action.... what we will do?” Lord Blackmamuth asked in the ducal palace of Orleans nearly crying.

“Shut up! Wait until we have more news; but my son you may need to ask our men to get ready... he he, I bet you curse the day you acknowledged Duke Charles as your master... I warned you about being too impulsive. Look what you have done to our family! I curse the day I asked you to take the control of the family... if I was 20 years younger.... “ Comte de Chambord replied.

* * * *

“Sir John,” I said. “Please try and find Duke Charles and Antoine – and anyone else you can find – and see if they are…eh…”
He nodded. “I understand. You?”

“No, I’m fine,” I said and looked around the dark, damp cell I was about to be locked into. Water ran down one side , a small window too far up another let in a little light. The floor was littered with dirty straws and rags. I even saw some rats looking at me with their pink eyes. I shuddered. “Yeah, I’m fine – for now.”

Sir John immediately exited the castle and went outside Caen to the battlefield looking for survivors he knew. All he found were dead and dying soldiers mostly from Orleans. A small mountain of men in the middle of the battlefield peaked his interest. He got a few of the cleaners to help him remove the bodies. In the middle of it he found Antoine grievously wounded but alive.

Gently lifting him up, Sir John carried Antoine to the field hospital dreading the result. A coarse man with a bloody apron looked Antoine briefly over, and said to Sir John to dump the body outside. This tent was for the important nobles that had a chance of surviving.

“You listen here, knave,” Sir John said angrily. “This man is the second most important noble in Orleans after Duke Charles now that his father is dead. His name is Antoine, Comte de Monet and acting Connétable d’Orléans. You will save him or else…”

“And you are?” The surgeon asked scornfully. “Another frog-eater I guess…”

“I am Sir John, baron of…”

The surgeon blanched. “The killer of the old Lord Chancellor?”

Sir John nodded. “The same.”

“What did he do?” The surgeon asked nervously while looking a little more attentively at Antoine.

“He refused to listen…”

* * * * *

Two days later, I was taken up from the dungeon taken to the courtroom of the palace where now the Duke of Clarence held court. Without being able to clean up, I presented a sorry sight to this glittering assembly.

“Well, good morning, Seneschal,” the Duke of Clarence said sarcastically. “Your master still lives and as such presents us with a problem.”

“Oh?”

“Yes. It’s now two days since the battle, and if he continues to live for a little while longer, we might be wrongly accused of killing him when does die – which he surely will – not unlike you and Duke Jean…”

“You recognise the truth…”

“I do nothing of the sort…where was I? Ah, yes. Had Duke Charles died the same day everything would had been fine. Or if he had not been mortally wounded – that too would have been fine. As it is – I’m pretty sure he will die and the surgeons in my employment have all ensured it is so – leaving me with a problem. I don’t want him anymore – for the risks we have discussed. You together with Duke Charles and whoever still lives of your men, can depart peacefully today – provided we get some assurance we had nothing to do with his subsequent death – whenever that happens.”

“What do you want?”

“Your signature – on behalf of the Duchy of Orleans – countersigned by Duke Charles if he ever recovers or his heir if not – on this Peace Treaty.”

“Which says what?”

“The short version – for a minimum of Five Years we will not go to war against one another. And I want 2,500 livres for being so nice.”

“That’s it?”

“Yes. Provided you leave today and hurry to Orleans so that Duke Charles will die at home and not here. Sir John will escort you to the border.”

I thought about it…and then bowed slightly. “I’ll sign it, your grace.”

* * * * *

Sir John met me in the courtyard of the palace with a dozen or so horse-drawn carriages. He escorted me around and showed whom he had managed to find and rescue. It wasn’t many. The last carriage held Duke Charles and Antoine. Both looked deathly ill, but Sir John assured me the actually looked worse than in reality – on purpose apparently.

“What do you mean?”

“Let’s just say we should be out of here and safely inside Orleans, before the Duke of Clarence starts to wonder why so many surgeons has left his pay. You owe me a large debt, Seneschal, or rather the Duchy of Orleans does.”

I stopped and looked speechless at Sir John. “Why?”

“You are my friends.”

“And our countries are at war…were at war I mean.”

He shrugged. “Friendship is more important – and you all treated me honourable during my period of disgrace. Let’s just say it was payback time. We are even now.”

* * * * *

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1 February 1428 : Orleans accepted peace with England on the following terms : Orleans pays 25$ in indemnities.
(WE ARE AT PEACE!)
 

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So before the battle they asked Flanders, and after the battle they won the asked 25 ducats, tsk.
 

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Good lord. That's the second example of quite a boneheaded AI peace offer I've read in 24 hours. 25 ducats!!! Astounding! I bet you were looking at the screen in complete disbelief at that, having just lost almost your entire army...I hope you clicked "accept" and then ran around the corner to your nearest "Lotto" vendor and bought yourself a stack of tickets.

I'm glad that Sir John was able to repay the courtesy with a favour of his own. When I think back to how long ago you set that up in the story, I'm really impressed. Great stroy/plot development and payoff!
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Compte de chambord was comforting Madame de Coucy; his duty wasn't easy; the notice of the Dead of Connetable de monnet and the disappearition of his husband and brother? and there was the Riot too...

Lord Blackmamuth was outside the palace repressing the Riot; but he really couldn't trust the incompetent Lord Blackmamuth, but the really competent were out at the battle...

then the messenger reached orleans...
Count of chambord was really surprised to see the smiling face of the messenger...

Good news? how strange...

Duke charles and Antoine the monnet badly injured? De
Coucy alive? and Peace With England???!!!

De Chambord Replyed to the messenger:

-Good news; son, but your duty hasn't ended...
Go to the main square; and tell the news to the people; and Get all Surgeons and doctors you can Find; that peace is nothing if we can't save Our Duke!!!
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Excellent work Thames... You are a lucky man; :D