Origin of the Czechs

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I would appreciate it if someone could give me a brief account of the early history of the Czech people.

Related question: how much difference is there between Bohemians and Moravians?

Thanks.

 

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Here, some links to: the Czechs

http://goeasteurope.about.com/library/travel/blt_cz5.htm

http://www.jobmonkey.com/teaching/europe/html/history.html

http://expatcities.com/cz/history_cz.htm

Some fun:
http://archiv.radio.cz/beer/beer1.html

http://www.beerchurch.com/czech_beer_tribute.htm

 

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Thanks Adler.

 

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Originally posted by Admiral Yi
I would appreciate it if someone could give me a brief account of the early history of the Czech people.

Related question: how much difference is there between Bohemians and Moravians?

Thanks.

A question: I have a pretty good historical atlas at home. There is a map of Slavic migration, which shows the Bohemians going to the area called Silesia or the like. However, the map later shows the expansion of German culture throughout Central and near eastern Europe. The map says that modern Bohemians can/do consider themselves culturally German rather than Slavic. How much of that statement is true, and would these Bohemians fall into the category of the Sudetan Germans that Hitler wished to "free" in the late 1930's??

 

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Re: Re: Origin of the Czechs

Originally posted by BRYCON316


A question: I have a pretty good historical atlas at home. There is a map of Slavic migration, which shows the Bohemians going to the area called Silesia or the like. However, the map later shows the expansion of German culture throughout Central and near eastern Europe. The map says that modern Bohemians can/do consider themselves culturally German rather than Slavic. How much of that statement is true, and would these Bohemians fall into the category of the Sudetan Germans that Hitler wished to "free" in the late 1930's??

I am not a Czech, but I am preatty sure that modern Bohemians do not consider themselves as German.

 

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I'm a little surprised by the complete absence of Czechs on the forum.

 

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Yes me to.

 

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EU was never released in Czechlandia... Poor guys had to buy it from us...

 

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I know some Czechs and some assorted other Slavs (Russians, Poles, Slovenese and Serbs). Czechs don't consider themselves particularly German, the other Slavs do at least when they are poking fun at the Czechs.

 

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http://www.ukans.edu/history/VL/europe/czech.html

Hanny

 

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Re: Re: Origin of the Czechs

Originally posted by BRYCON316


A question: I have a pretty good historical atlas at home. There is a map of Slavic migration, which shows the Bohemians going to the area called Silesia or the like. However, the map later shows the expansion of German culture throughout Central and near eastern Europe. The map says that modern Bohemians can/do consider themselves culturally German rather than Slavic. How much of that statement is true, and would these Bohemians fall into the category of the Sudetan Germans that Hitler wished to "free" in the late 1930's??

Czechs belonged to HRE and they were under great influence of German culture but I suppose they never consider himself as Germans
Btw
Slavic migration crossed river Oder and reach territory along left bank of this river but that slavic tribes were quickly germanized. The same could happen with Czechs....but.....

 

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Originally posted by Aetius
I know some Czechs and some assorted other Slavs (Russians, Poles, Slovenese and Serbs). Czechs don't consider themselves particularly German, the other Slavs do at least when they are poking fun at the Czechs.

We are poking fun at Chechs mostly because of their language.
Czech and polish language are very similar (in fact in past they were almost identical) but Czechs tonque sounds very VERY FUNNY for Poles.
Moreover I was suprised when I discovered that polish language sounds even funnier for Chechs

 

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Czechs recreated their own language in 19th cen. mainly on the base of famous Linde dictionary of old polish language. It seems like old polish and czechs' languages were very similar. Unique for Bohemians is lacking of "G" which is repalced by "H".
No, Czechs consider themselves Czechs. They were very strongly germanized after 1620 but passed on national awakening just like another Slavs in 19th cen.

It rather hard to determine if EU will be ever released in Bohemia cause CD Projekt is working on it and all of us know their "great" deadline promises...

 

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Originally posted by vilkouak
Czechs recreated their own language in 19th cen. mainly on the base of famous Linde dictionary of old polish language.

The Czech language largely disappeared from the towns following 1620, but continued to survive in the countryside. Historians in the past tended to exaggerate the number of Czechs who adopted the German language.

 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight

The Czech language largely disappeared from the towns following 1620, but continued to survive in the countryside. Historians in the past tended to exaggerate the number of Czechs who adopted the German language.

Agree. Linde was the base to recreate written form of language as it described old polish forms which were much in common to other western slavic language groups. Czechs never used Linde dictionary to reborn some dead language but to give it modern written form.

 

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Originally posted by Admiral Yi
I'm a little surprised by the complete absence of Czechs on the forum.

Rommel22 is Czech, at least in origin. Strange name for a Czech, though

 

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Originally posted by Maur13

Rommel22 is Czech, at least in origin. Strange name for a Czech, though

There have been occasional Czechs on the forum, but very few and seemingly never more than 1 at a time. It just seems odd that there's a huge disparity between the number of Czechs and the number of, say, Hungarians (I assume the prevalence of computers and the internet would be roughly the same in these two countries).

 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight

There have been occasional Czechs on the forum, but very few and seemingly never more than 1 at a time. It just seems odd that there's a huge disparity between the number of Czechs and the number of, say, Hungarians (I assume the prevalence of computers and the internet would be roughly the same in these two countries).

Internet is even cheaper in Bohemia. Maybe the factor that EU was not officialy released inj Bohemia has something to do. But was it released in Hungary? I don't know.

 

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Maybe they're just spending their time in the German forum.

 

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Originally posted by Admiral Yi
Maybe they're just spending their time in the German forum.

Rather not. They almost for sure would checked other forums. German is not so common in Bohemia I think to resignate from english forum.
It must be question of availibity.