Orders Militant

[Nikolai II]

Couldn't find any thread with this title, so here comes one historical and one gamey question.

The orders in the game are supposedly the Knight´s Templars, The Knights of St John, The Teutonic Order or the Order of Calatrava and the Order of Santiago.

I know some things about the first three, but what are/were the last two. Where were they based and what did they do?

And in game, will there likely be a difference between the orders, or will you treat them all the same.

Like, I'm Hungary, I want the Teutonic Order to move down here and crusade against my moslem enemies instead, or I'm Sweden and I want the Teutonic Order to be based in Finland instead.

If they will have other abilities is a question that likely will have to wait until we know if there are any other abilities to have in the game

Also, what will likely be needed to become head of an order, Power, Piety or Prestige? What will be the benefits, a free army, piety, prestige?

 

[The Larch]

Originally posted by Nikolai II
The orders in the game are supposedly the Knight´s Templars, The Knights of St John, The Teutonic Order or the Order of Calatrava and the Order of Santiago.

I know some things about the first three, but what are/were the last two. Where were they based and what did they do?

The orders of Calatrava (1158) and Santiago (1164) were based in Castilla (both of them), León and Portugal (Santiago) and fought mainly in the Reconquista.

The order of Calatrava was a fully military one, while the Order of Santiago was military/hospitaller.

 

[Norgesvenn]

I can't really see the Knights Templar bowing to any other authority than that of the Pope.

But, it's a very interesting question, though.

 

[Eochaid]

As those orders don't exist in 1066, maybe you can influence (bribe?) them to have them build their main castle in your estates. By granting them lands or such things...

 

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Norgesvenn
I can't really see the Knights Templar bowing to any other authority than that of the Pope.

But, it's a very interesting question, though.

So then I have to both control the head of the order and the pope. Then I can force them to move to Sweden and become my personal bodyguards?

 

[Winkelried]

Originally posted by Eochaid
As those orders don't exist in 1066, maybe you can influence (bribe?) them to have them build their main castle in your estates. By granting them lands or such things...

Hm, do you really want a bunch of well organized, rich and powerful fanatics as neighbours? Could result in some trouble for you if you should decide to go heretic.

 

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Winkelried


Hm, do you really want a bunch of well organized, rich and powerful fanatics as neighbours? Could result in some trouble for you if you should decide to go heretic.

Ah, but going heretic is for EU2, in CK you are gods chosen, anointed king and pope-maker supreme

 

[Eochaid]

Originally posted by Winkelried


Hm, do you really want a bunch of well organized, rich and powerful fanatics as neighbours? Could result in some trouble for you if you should decide to go heretic.

Well I AM a well-organized, rich and powerful fanatic! Bwuahahahahaha .

Did I scare you? No? Well, that's good because in fact I'm just a lazy student spending all his öoney in bAARs and always looking for his keys.

More seriously, as a King/Duke/Emperor/or whatever ban the Militant orders from our lands? Or even destroy them by steel and trial like Philippe Le Bel did in France? 'Coz that could be interesting

 

[Norgesvenn]

Yes, I wonder if Friday 13th 1307 will be a hardcoded "universal" event. I mean, if the Templars aren't present in France at the moment, or even elsewhere, there's little need for such an event as the dissolving of the Knights Templar.