Option to declare neutrality

[TheDarkMaster]

If you are allied to both the attacker and defender in a war, you should have the option to declare neutrality in a war. This prevents you from participating in either side or being called in, while still maintaining your alliance with both sides. You only get a small opinion penalty with both and a small prestige loss. The defender of the faith can choose to declare neutrality as well without giving up the title, but they suffer a bigger penalty.

This is something that the AI could also do, and depends on various opinion factors.

Subjects, guarantees, and imperial membership take precedence over this and the overlord, protector, or emperor cannot choose to proclaim neutrality in this case.

 

[magnusvejby]

i don't think this really makes sense in eu4 time period but if you can find any examples (Wikipedia link) of it i would gladly support your idea.

 

[Mattius]

i don't think this really makes sense in eu4 time period but if you can find any examples (Wikipedia link) of it i would gladly support your idea. [/QUOTE
The Swiss!

 

[PiriReis]

i don't think this really makes sense in eu4 time period but if you can find any examples (Wikipedia link) of it i would gladly support your idea.

Swiss?

 

[TheDarkMaster]

This is less about saying that your nation is entirely neutral and more about saying that you're not going to pick sides in a fight between two of your allies.

 

[Ilightmaster]

I like this idea but it looks like a futur exploit to me

 

[Liquid Ghost]

I really like that, maybe get a big relation hit from both allies, particularly the defender, but not an outright alliance breakdown. Trust levels should drop too.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

The main idea here is to give you an option if joining on one side of the war is a really bad result for you, giving a option in a no-win scenario.

Say you've got two nations you're protecting that neighbor a third powerful rival/enemy. One of the first two nations declares war on the other, and you get a call to arms against the aggressor. If you agree, well then the aggressor gets annexed by your enemy/rival. If you refuse, then the defender gets annexed by your enemy/rival. There is no winning move in that situation, which is why I proposed the option to proclaim neutrality in the scenario.

 

[solidprice]

I like this.
It could help ai Austria to not overextend.

 

[Mattius]

Ally France and Burgundy without having to fight either? Yes please.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Ally France and Burgundy without having to fight either? Yes please.

Oops, Spain attacked you and France declared neutrality. It goes both ways. Also, allying with two rivals might not stick for too long. Especially if you declare neutrality once or twice with them.