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I think there should be the option to declare Martial Law in one's country if the rebellions get out of hand to crush the rebels.:cool:

I can't help but notice your forum username :p. This would be a cool option, but shouldn't be too high on their priority list IMO. You can always just mobilize... or can you (without being at war)?
 

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I can't help but notice your forum username :p. This would be a cool option, but shouldn't be too high on their priority list IMO. You can always just mobilize... or can you (without being at war)?

you can in vic1 at least. I agree it is the best solution, though certainly not worth it in any scenario can think of (maybe if mil is only increased in radical pops and you need to de-radicalize them by artificially lowering their mil through having an army in their prov)
 

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I also think that they should have a General Lee in the new game!

Wait...

;)
 

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Lol, and I think there should be Taylor POP types.
 
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Martial Law? Please... this is the Victorian Age, even the military was afraid of policemen on the street. All you had to do was give a Bobby the wrong look and he would break your face with his Truncheon.
 

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Banning public meetings and placing army garrisons in every province are basically martial law
 

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Well, all joking aside, if they do with revolts similar to the path they appear to be taking with POPS then a martial law option might actually fit into the new game better than our old, Vicky1 way of thinking. I guess we might possibly find out in a future Developer's Diary.

I almost put Dairy instead.:rofl:
 

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Banning public meetings and placing army garrisons in every province are basically martial law

That is very tiresome to do when you have 500 divisions and perhaps a little less provinces. Could there be a feature that autodeply single divisions out in every province? I remember it had a preventive effect on rebels to do it so i had to do that some times but manually. *sigh* Its so much hard work being a dictator!!!
 
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No such thing as a long-term martial law because if the local police can`t get their act together than they are often replaced.

This was the case in Canada and our Federal Police is the Royal Canadian Gendarmerie, or better known as the RCMP or Mounties.
 

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I think I'm in agreement with Faulty here. There are already mechanics ingame (V1) that allow you to approach martial law conditions. Also keep in mind that for most of the globe in this era, monarchies were still of the type that allowed them to rule by decree, a de facto martial law whenever I want, setup. Perhaps what is needed is not more modifiers for country in martial law, but rather more for countries that are not.
 

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I still think decisions to insitute a State of Emergency, Martial Law and Parliamentary Urgency and other such crisis responses would so alot to add to the game and very little work to add in. A decision to start it and another to end it and an event to launch if it has continued for too long a time threatening unrest or the possibly even switching to a presidential dictatorship in extreme circumstances if you dont lift the Martial Law when asked by parliament or mass demostrations or cabinet or something.
 
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Good idea; one way to implement it could be:
  • at least 10% of your provinces are out of control (enemy or rebels controlled): you get the option to enact martial law
  • immediate effect is to prevent any further revolts (revoltrisk temporary set to 0) and to suppress the various negative effects of very militant pops
  • bonus from civil right bills (like voting rights, press freedom) are temporary nullified; no elections can take place
  • temporary production malus
  • under martial law, pops get a heafty MIL increase every day
  • it lasts until you regain control over your entire territory
  • or if the overall MIL of your pops gets over a given threshold (formula could be based on your overral military strength), martial law is broken, and civil war errupts (can lead to revolutions)

The 3 last parameters should avoid any exploit possibilities, as martial law becomes sort of a sprint: either you get control over your territory back, or MIL gets over the threshold, the civil war errupts (which cancels automatically martial law).
 
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That is very tiresome to do when you have 500 divisions and perhaps a little less provinces. Could there be a feature that autodeply single divisions out in every province? I remember it had a preventive effect on rebels to do it so i had to do that some times but manually. *sigh* Its so much hard work being a dictator!!!

One of the reasons why I always went for democracy, far less rebellions. Most of the time I had the divisions to destroy the rebels, but it was just such a pain in the ass to move them back and forth every month...and to do that in dozens of provinces.