Option of offer to join wars missing

[Ritzzz]

Been playing as the King of Alania and had been able to join wars as per normal since the start. However recently, the option of offer join wars has totally disappeared. In fact, when I tried loading as any character in this game, all did not have the option of offer to join wars.

Update: I can see now see the option to join wars for my allies, but still not my neighbours of the same religion, which is supposed to be if WAD.

Attached is the save game. If a solution could be found, could you kindly direct me to it?

Thanks alot for any form of help .

 

[Dracko81]

Different wars have different conditions on joining wars.

For example you can not offer to join an invasion against a neighbour. But you can offer to join a defensive holy war.

muslim_invasion = {
	name = CB_NAME_INVASION
	war_name = WAR_NAME_INVASION
	sprite = 8
	truce_days = 3650
	hostile_against_others = yes
	is_permanent = yes
	can_ask_to_join_war = no

religious = {
	name = CB_NAME_RELIGIOUS
	war_name = WAR_NAME_RELIGIOUS
	sprite = 9
	truce_days = 3650
	is_permanent = yes
	check_de_jure_tier = DUKE # this scans all dejure duchies for the counties which are held by or vassals(or below) of selected character. Only valid if is_permanent = yes

I did not check your save, but if this is not the issue let us know.

 

[Ritzzz]

Different wars have different conditions on joining wars.

For example you can not offer to join an invasion against a neighbour. But you can offer to join a defensive holy war.

muslim_invasion = {
	name = CB_NAME_INVASION
	war_name = WAR_NAME_INVASION
	sprite = 8
	truce_days = 3650
	hostile_against_others = yes
	is_permanent = yes
	can_ask_to_join_war = no

religious = {
	name = CB_NAME_RELIGIOUS
	war_name = WAR_NAME_RELIGIOUS
	sprite = 9
	truce_days = 3650
	is_permanent = yes
	check_de_jure_tier = DUKE # this scans all dejure duchies for the counties which are held by or vassals(or below) of selected character. Only valid if is_permanent = yes

I did not check your save, but if this is not the issue let us know.

Thanks for the explanation . But this gotten me a bit more confused. Well in my Alania game I cannot offer to join the Byzantine empire in defending against the Fatimid invasion, which can be explained by what you just mentioned.

But in another Savoie game, I can offer to join neighbouring France in defending against an invasion from the Swiss Band. Why is this? Any explanation would be most help .

 

[Dracko81]

Were you allied with France in the second case?

I am not sure which invasion type a mercenary band uses in its invasions either. There are 4 different types in the 00_cb_types.txt.

Also did you offer to join or called to arms?

 

[Ritzzz]

Nope I'm not allied to France. It's just me being king of burgundy and my leige the HRE is France's neighbour.

And yes I offered to join.

Thanks for looking into this btw .

 

[Dracko81]

The invasion from a mercenary group is shown here with what appears to be the muslim invasion icon. However it uses the same sprite as Tribal invasion.

tribal_invasion = {
	name = CB_NAME_INVASION
	war_name = WAR_NAME_INVASION
	sprite = 8
	truce_days = 365
	hostile_against_others = yes
	is_permanent = yes
	can_ask_to_join_war = yes
	check_de_jure_tier = KING # this scans all de jure kingdoms for the counties which are held by or vassals(or below) of selected character. Only valid if is_permanent = yes

muslim_invasion = {
	name = CB_NAME_INVASION
	war_name = WAR_NAME_INVASION
	sprite = 8
	truce_days = 3650
	hostile_against_others = yes
	is_permanent = yes
	can_ask_to_join_war = no
	check_de_jure_tier = KING # this scans all de jure kingdoms for the counties which are held by or vassals(or below) of selected character. Only valid if is_permanent = yes

So I would say that mercenary groups use the tribal invasion, when they invade a realm from lack of payment. This would be why you are able to offer to defend in this case.

I am not sure if that itself is WAD or an oversight with invasion type or whatever.

Happy to help.

 

[Ritzzz]

Thanks for the explanation again!

Anyway, somehow the issue resolved itself automatically as I carried playing the save game, as I can now join my neighbour's wars as per WAD. So i guess we can close this case for now then .