Operation Sealion '42

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Could anyone give me some tips on taking out those pesky Brits.Am flying high playing as the Fatherland,have tried before but always seem to come unstuck and my naval transports seem next to useless-range problems.Any advice would be most appreciated.Salute

Tiger Claws Uk

 

[Mork]

Range problems for Seelöwe? As Germany? :wacko:

I think you have to be more specific. What are your goals, and how have you tried to acomplish them?

(Seelöwe is easy, just use paras coupled with naval bombers for transport protection, if you have no objections to exploits, then land in a non-beach minor port and bring in reinforcement troops fast)

 

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No transport should have range problems preventing a Sealion. If you are talking about air transports even the lowest level ones can get there even from Paris.

Beyond that, here is how I do it. Air superiority helps big-time. If you can get that and have beat the USSR then put all your TAC and CAS in northern France and have them on English Channel "Naval Strike" (many would tell you to bomb the garrisons in south England - I think hitting ships is more effective a use of the air.)

When you are ready to go get ALL land forces you want to use and your fleet into Cherbourg. Even the Kriegsmarine you start the game with can do for this with enough air superiority. (But do build 12 transports or so)

What I do is watch for which coastal province seems to have the least in the way of garrison. I hit it with a 3-division paradrop simultaneously with a 3-division marine amphib landing. Don't attack amphibiously with more than 3 at a time - big penalties. If you hit 'em from both angles at once you have a decent shot of getting the province. Once you do, start ferrying your invasion forces from Cherbourg to your captured province as quickly as possible. Don't fully load your TPs - leave some room so if the RN gets to you and sinks a few you do not lose entire divisions in the process (I will load 9 divisions into 12 transports, for instance).

Past that, make sure you have plenty of convoys and escorts built so as to keep your invasion force supplied. Hope that helps!

 

[blue emu]

... and my naval transports seem next to useless-range problems...

Do you have them grouped with something with very short range?

Lvl-I Subs? Pre-war Destroyers?

Where are they BASED?

Note: not "What port are they sitting in"... that doesn't matter... where does it say (on the left side-bar) that they are BASED?

 

[Mork]

To completely de-rail this thread, where were you wrong emu?

 

[GeneralHannibal]

To completely de-rail this thread, where were you wrong emu?

lol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: lol

 

[blue emu]

To completely de-rail this thread, where were you wrong emu?

I spelled the title of Rommel's pre-war book incorrectly... I was trying to spell it in German, and I don't speak the language.

I decided not to commit seppuku... I may still be able to recover my honor...

 

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I spelled the title of Rommel's pre-war book incorrectly... I was trying to spell it in German, and I don't speak the language.

I decided not to commit seppuku... I may still be able to recover my honor...

Try learning some of Yamamoto's haiku..in original

 

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Sealion is much easier if you do a variant of Plan Z. I always do this as Germany, instead of doing my airforce. I find it reap huge rewards. Because after i secure europe, including the british isles and Ireland... air raids aren't much of an issue, if one at all. And I constantly destroy allied navies when i do this, making the AI build more anvies that jsut get destroyed, when they don't build much airforce because it doesn't get damaged. But they don't bomb you at all fi You secure europe and the british isles.

Also whenever I do a Germany 36' I always do Sealion a year before I dow SU.

And don't forget to Build CV's if yuo do plan Z. By 1942 I usually have atleast 8, usually around 10.

 

[Hamminator]

I prefer Tacs bombing the channel and a quick amphibious assault with 3 inf or mar depending on the difficulty. With the support of CAS's and a para drop. Then i bring the armor and england is German.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

I spelled the title of Rommel's pre-war book incorrectly... I was trying to spell it in German, and I don't speak the language.

I decided not to commit seppuku... I may still be able to recover my honor...

Don't forget this thread.
You said that there is no way to assasinate HoS and HoG even if you kill them as other ministers


Ok... calm... calm... Take hands of that sword. Do not commit seppuku... You are not going to? Good...

Why are you still holding that sword? Why are you looking at me like that? Come on, I just... Step BACK! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRHHRR!!!!!

 

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I suck at duplicating sealion. my latest debacle was naval assault with 2 transport fleets carrying 16 infantry, 5 panzer, 2 motorized, 1hq and my kriegsmarine cover with 19 ships, 6 caps. After months of air bombarding from 24 tacs, 8 navs, 8 cas, with 20 ints and 8 figthers, they seem helpless. looks like 1 infantry in each province and an armored in back. D-Day is set for march 41, running behind schedule.

I drop 8 airborne in plymouth which they take easily. I choose to land my main force in norwich as it has no defense. my navs have cleared all ports of allied ships in the south of the island. I built no subs at all, put the ones I started with to interdict/sacrifice anythin coming down from scapa flow or such. I have no marines and when the assault on norwich starts taking days to unload, I get worried. sure enough, here comes a 36 ship carrier fleet outta nowhere. I throw half my air force at it. somehow, I lose everything cept 5 transports, empty of course.

now the soviets have a clear 2 to 1 advantage on east front, ive lost all my battle hardened veterans. my supplies and cash are at their lowest levels. spent alot of money trying to get ireland to no avail. I figure maybe I could take another year of softening the uk up, but why. they will have an even larger navy. Even if I started from 36, I dont see how I could ever field a fleet close to theirs without stripping my whole country down.

 

[Profane]

dogdersROC you should land the troops in the province the paras took that way you can unload the transports before uk has any chance of doing anything about it, second you can use the old wwI ships as bait to lure out allied navies for some air bombardment.. just have them hanging out doing convoy raiding or whatever in the channel. And immedieately retreat to a port when allied fleet is spotted, bomb allies until they go away and send the ships back out .. rince repeat until no carriers/battleships are left.

 

[Mork]

OMG! They killed NicktheTick! You Bastards!

Well, I guess not, ticks should be squashed at every turn...





Edit: Tiger Claws, It would be a lot easier to answer your questions if you'd actually participate...

 

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I always Sealion in early 1940...

August 30th-Sept 20th (at the very latest, usually earlier) - Annex Poland
September 30th - Attack Belgium, usually takes a few days for my troops to get over the terrain.
October 2nd (round about) - Attack Belgium and France, just break through the lines and take as much ground until Vichy fires.
Whenever my paratroops are ready - Sealowe.

I don't do it on Cardiff, because 1. It's lame 2. The RN usually sinks my TPs.

I just set all my CAS and TAC to interdiction strike until their troops are really low org, and land in that province, then ferry my troops across the channel.

Easy... and gives me more than a year to prepare for Barbarossa. In that time I just invade the minors around Europe.

 

[Yasko]

Is it possible to do a Sealion after 1943? The UK AI seems to defend with at least 6 divisions in every province+forts. I have wiped out their airforce as Germany, but it just seems impossible to make an invasion as soon as fighting starts he reinforces the original garrision with at least 10 divisions...

 

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Is it possible to do a Sealion after 1943? The UK AI seems to defend with at least 6 divisions in every province+forts. I have wiped out their airforce as Germany, but it just seems impossible to make an invasion as soon as fighting starts he reinforces the original garrision with at least 10 divisions...

Nukes :rofl:

 

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Is it possible to do a Sealion after 1943? The UK AI seems to defend with at least 6 divisions in every province+forts. I have wiped out their airforce as Germany, but it just seems impossible to make an invasion as soon as fighting starts he reinforces the original garrision with at least 10 divisions...

Possible, I suppose, but you'd have to rule the waves. You'd need all the shore bombardment you could get to kill 6+ fully dug in divisions in forts.

(Of course, if you've not built a navy yet, then that would add another year at least, so they'd be able to reinforce further. But enough ships could reduce their effectiveness to under 10%.)

 

[Yasko]

Possible, I suppose, but you'd have to rule the waves. You'd need all the shore bombardment you could get to kill 6+ fully dug in divisions in forts.

(Of course, if you've not built a navy yet, then that would add another year at least, so they'd be able to reinforce further. But enough ships could reduce their effectiveness to under 10%.)

British navy is crushed, thats why the year is 1944, it took me 2-3 years to crush the british navy and combined US/UK airforce over the island. But i dont have any BBs, only (20)CA, (50)DD, (50)CL and of course (16)CV. My Airforce is (20)TAC, (20)INF, (20)FTR large, all jets... I am considering abonden the game... I also have 18 Marines ready for action, no paratroopers though...

BTW, no nukes, it would take 2-3 years to research.

 

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CVs are excellent for Shore Bombardment.