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This is a beta version of the hotfix which we intend to release on Friday, or, failing that, early next week. Right-click on Crusader Kings II in the Steam client, go into the Betas tab and choose to opt into the "beta" branch.

IMPORTANT: Understand that this is a beta. Only do this if you want to help us test out the hotfix. We cannot guarantee that it actually fixes what it's supposed to, or that it does not introduce new problems.

Checksum: GFTG (and it should now be the same on all three platforms!)

CHANGE LOG:

- Added missing Jewish religious icons
- No longer possible to play as a Jew without the Sons of Abraham DLC
- The "Legitimize Bastard" decision now sets the correct dynasty
- Cathars now have access to the "True Cognatic" succession law
- Jewish priests are now allowed to marry
- The kingdom of Jerusalem decisions to vassalize the Knights Templar and Hospitaller now work
- Heresies are now also shown on the religion page in the ledger
- The Knights of Santiago now have their historical activation date and first Grandmaster
- Fixed a bug where an antipope installed as proper Pope in Rome would get an antipope successor
- Fixed a bug where the Pope could restore himself in Rome infinitely, for astronomical amounts of Piety
- GamersGate users no longer incorrectly get the Steam overlay
- Different platforms don't get different checksums anymore
- You can no longer get a barony level character when pressing the Random Character button
- Added more descriptive text when Ironman is disabled
- Removed some ways in which one could cheat in Ironman
- Disabled autosave to cloud storage option in settings if no cloud storage is available
- Fixed some bugs with the new 'hold_election' effect

UPDATE 1:
- AI: Massively reduced the chance that it will create antipopes, for now
- Fixed an issue with ridiculously powerful Mongol stacks if there were Jews in the world
 
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What about the Antipope spam and mechanics? Once Catholic MA works properly, it will be gamebreaking (in a hilarious way, for sure, but gamebreaking).

Balancing the loans is also...pretty high priority, I'd have to say.
 

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As long as Antipopes aren't tweaked so that they can be removed by other rulers and vassals of the liege who instituted the Antipope, I'm going to keep them disabled.
 

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The problem I see is that the response to an Antipope is far less than what you would reasonably expect, and there's virtually no way of getting rid of them once they're around.

This pretty much sums it up.


I have a game currently, that i have had to load the game as another king to press his claims on the papacy to get rid of the anti pope only to have the same king make another anti pope a few months later. Its frustrating (cant imagine if i was playing iron man):unsure:
 

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As long as Antipopes aren't tweaked so that they can be removed by other rulers and vassals of the liege who instituted the Antipope, I'm going to keep them disabled.

We will take a look at this, but it's not hotfix material.
 

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We will take a look at this, but it's not hotfix material.

I don't agree. Antipopes are fundamentally broken right now, and they're making Catholic ruler games virtually unplayable.

A somewhat fix would be to make it so that they don't have Antipope successors. If an Antipope dies, if the ruler who created the Antipope wants another one, he should have to create another one.
 

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We will take a look at this, but it's not hotfix material.
I don't think you understand. Right now kings are making Antipopes constantly for no reason. Remove the broken Catholic MA and Catholicism will break down due to multiple Antipopes being around all the time.

If you don't want to add proper mechanics to the Antipopes, then the hotfix needs to disable the AI creating them.
 

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I don't agree. Antipopes are fundamentally broken right now, and they're making Catholic ruler games virtually unplayable.

A somewhat fix would be to make it so that they don't have Antipope successors. If an Antipope dies, if the leader who created the Antipope wants another one, he should have to create another one.

Hmm, ok, we'll see what we can do.
 
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