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The grey provinces aren't as easy to colonize as in EU. They're uncivilized, roaming barbarians who you must conquer or assimilate.
 

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Gottskalk said:
Or they are trying to use this to their benefit by using the minor gobbling ai to eat up gaul as the romans did and then they use the horrible colinizing ai to hinder the romans in invading germania. Quite brilliant i must say!

This is so wrong it has to be true! :rofl:

Darkarbiter said:
Then of course this probably isn't played by the average american.

Indeed! And I would know..

L'Afrique said:
The grey provinces aren't as easy to colonize as in EU. They're uncivilized, roaming barbarians who you must conquer or assimilate.

Then maybe it won't be as easy for the Suebi as I thought... especially if the roaming (goat-skull) barbarians can't be reasoned with.
 

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Darkarbiter said:
Oh please... as if the average American cares about his ancestry :rofl: .
I think most Americans of Germanic descent just think of themselves as "Americans" and don't worry about great-great-great-[...]-great-grandpa who was a marauding tribal chief.

Not that that's a bad thing. :confused:
 

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Vladislav said:
I think most Americans of Germanic descent just think of themselves as "Americans" and don't worry about great-great-great-[...]-great-grandpa who was a marauding tribal chief.

Not that that's a bad thing. :confused:

But seriously: By American movies one often gets the impression that for Americans it is quite important whether they are “Irish” or “Italian”, even today.
 

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Stratege said:
But seriously: By American movies one often gets the impression that for Americans it is quite important whether they are “Irish” or “Italian”, even today.

Most people care, some don't - I think anyone who is interested in paradox games will be acutely aware of their ancestry. It can be fun playing any famous historical faction, but for me the experience is much improved if I can "relate" to whom I'm playing, especially here since there are dynasties involved.

yourworstnightm said:
I think many germanic tribes will be created by hordes (which can "rebel" and create a faction). Also there are probably more playable tribes if you choose a later start date.

Here's hopin' that that's true - though I usually feel a strong urge to start the game at the earliest possible startdate, to get the absolute most out of the scenario.
 

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I am half german (not really sure on anything more specific than that) and my dad is full german. we both care (me much more than him) about our ancestry just becuase we find it interesting. i am a history major in college (any idea on what you can do with that besides teach?) and for awhile now i have been planning on tracing back my family line.
 

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adventchild667 said:
I am half german (not really sure on anything more specific than that) and my dad is full german. we both care (me much more than him) about our ancestry just becuase we find it interesting. i am a history major in college (any idea on what you can do with that besides teach?) and for awhile now i have been planning on tracing back my family line.
I'm writing a book adventc, but if you do VERY well you can go into some government positions (Helps if it's a nice University too) where they'll train you up in intel analysis or something, although a masters/doctorate are better and they usually want someone specializing in a certain nation/region. Also you can always go into business whatever your degree is in. I'm also German/Irish(You do not wish to drink with me...mwhaha, lol).
 

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Darkarbiter said:
Oh please... as if the average American cares about his ancestry :rofl: .

Then ofcourse this probably isn't played by the average american.

In elementary school, we had several occasions where we were supposed to do reports on our cultural roots. I always just made up mine.
 

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adventchild667 said:
I am half german (not really sure on anything more specific than that) and my dad is full german. we both care (me much more than him) about our ancestry just becuase we find it interesting. i am a history major in college (any idea on what you can do with that besides teach?) and for awhile now i have been planning on tracing back my family line.

If you have any skills at math then computer programming may be up your alley. Lots of game developers look for programmers that know more than just programing. Especially since most computer games have either a historic or alternate historic setting.
 

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Stratege said:
But seriously: By American movies one often gets the impression that for Americans it is quite important whether they are “Irish” or “Italian”, even today.
That -is- true to a certain extent, and I'm certainly not an expert on the subject, but from my amateur perspective, it seems like ethnic background is more important in Europe than in the US. Especially since a lot of people are 1/4 Irish 1/4 Polish 1/4 Cherokee 1/4 Cuban, or random assortment of ethnicities people's heritage consists of. /shrug
 

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I don't want to drift too far off the topic of the game...

But in my opinion one has to "choose" his ancestry. No one in America - and no one in Europe - can trace his roots to one tribe in EU:Rome for example.

Case in point: I read once that virtually every person with a European background is a decendant of Muhammed, due to his daughter Fatima marrying into a house that eventually merged with the royal families of Europe (who had a habit of spreading around their genes with their subjects).

How many ancesters does one have who were alive 2000 years ago?
The minimum is 2, the theoretical maximum is (assuming a generational time of 25 years)

2 to the 80th power!


Nevertheless, one can relate to one tribe and their values the most: to bravery, strength, and honor! :rolleyes:
 

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I'm also part Atlantian.
 

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Ceolfisc said:
Case in point: I read once that virtually every person with a European background is a decendant of Muhammed, due to his daughter Fatima marrying into a house that eventually merged with the royal families of Europe (who had a habit of spreading around their genes with their subjects).

It took me a while but I did manage to find a site that partially substantiated the above claim.

Here is for everyone that wants to see it for themselves:

http://humphrysfamilytree.com/Islam/index.html
 

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I figure that math does not always match reality. But if you go far enough back...there's gonna be a hell of a lot of strands to be sure. But I don't think 1000 years is enough, believe it or no...how do I back this up? meh. lol
 

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Ceolfisc said:
Case in point: I read once that virtually every person with a European background is a decendant of Muhammed, due to his daughter Fatima marrying into a house that eventually merged with the royal families of Europe (who had a habit of spreading around their genes with their subjects).

I did not know that. I once read that if you trace back the ancestors of Europeans back into the 16th Century, most people are relatives.
This often becomes public when popstars and historical characters are said to have common ancestors.

BTW: What is the difference between Atlantian and Taureian?
 

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While it would be cool to be a descendant of Muhammed the claim doesnt look to have any founding at all. A sentence like this from the linked page above:

"Apparently the Muslim genealogy of the Prophet Muhammad is considered reasonably well supported. However, there is not yet any proven descent from it to medieval European Christian lines. If any descent is established, it will probably be through medieval Spain and Portugal."

Apparently, not yet any proven, probably... meh.