On the HRE election

[Landmeister]

Dear all,

This is my first thread in this forum and I hope you can give me some help. I haven't found what I'm looking for through the search tool so I guess it is so evident that no one needs to ask...except me o
Could someone please tell me how the HRE election process work in CK2? I'm playing my first game as the current HRE. I changed the empire laws from election to agnatic in order to create a inheritable empire, but I see a duke is selected as my successor hmy::sad: Why changing the law did not work? My oldest son should be my heir instead of any imperial duke.

Could someone please tell me what am I doing wrong?

Thank you very much in advance.

 

[Ithvan]

Agnatic elective (which I'm guessing is what you have) means only guys are able to be elected.

You should try and make sure you have Gavelkind, Seniority or Primogeniture in place. Of course, that involves raising your crown authority.

 

[Landmeister]

Ok. Thank you very much. And could you please tell me what criteria does the AI use to vote for one candidate or another. I see that I will need at least two centuries to achieve so much crown authority so my sons will have to be elected meanwhile. :sad:

 

[Mods]

It would take 3 crown authority changes (from minimal to high), so you'll need to have 3 other dynasty members elected before you could turn it into an inheritable empire (and each one needs to be loved and have ruled for atleast 10 years)

 

[Landmeister]

It would take 3 crown authority changes (from minimal to high), so you'll need to have 3 other dynasty members elected before you could turn it into an inheritable empire (and each one needs to be loved and have ruled for atleast 10 years)

Thanks for your response. Just two more quick questions. 1) Why 3 other dinasty member AFTER the last crown authority changes (why no 2 or 4)? 2) Why do you mean by "to be loved"? I understand to be loved by other electors, but I can't see who the electors are. Additionally the only way to be loved I know are by traits (so random) or by giving money (very expensive when you have more than 20 electors :sad Is there any other way?

Thank you in advance.

 

[Landmeister]

I gave a dukedom to one of my sons and almost immediately every duke voted for him!!!:blink: Is it so easy to be elected? I find it too much if so.

 

[Ithvan]

As far as I know, the AI dukes will vote for your candidate when you're liked, when you're powerful and when your candidate isn't completely incompetent.

Answer to 1): When you start playing as Heinrich IV you're on Autonomous Vassals. You have to increase Crown Authority 3 times (Limited, Medium and High) in order to be able to institute Primogeniture. That makes the empire hereditary.

Answer to 2): Make the dukes like you. Give 'em titles, be the good guy, all that. When you go to the 'vassals' tab on your character screen, you will see some have a crown in a bubble (or something) above their opinion. That indicates they're electors. If I remember it right, every duke who holds land in the de jure HRE can nominate a successor.


A great way to raise your prestige is warring. Take out all the Romuva pagans and preferably the muslims too.

 

[Hootieleece]

Remember to Keep a Dukedom or Two for yourself and nominate your heir.Think of your vote as a tiebreaker.

Breed and educate for Diplomacy skill.....it make Vassals/Electors love you.

 

[Landmeister]

Thank you very much for your responses. I see it much clearer now.

 

[cywang86]

Another way is to wait for a crusade.
Everyone will like you more if you're on a crusade. You don't even have to send the army in, just offer to join is sufficient. Besides, if you don't offer to join you'd risk getting excommunicated.

Further more, if you're on Low CA, you can send an army to the crusade target province, and rotate the generals with your dukes/counts/yourself so everyone gets the crusader trait, which adds another 30 opinions between crusaders themselves.

Ofc, they'd have to be males. As for the females, attractive trait would bring you a free boost, too. Or you can just keep Agnatic succession law to prevent female rulers.

Best used when promoting from med to high and you need everyone to like you for the succession law change.

And then there's the feast event triggered from the intrigue menu, which is another 1 diplomat and 10 opinion modifier.

 

[Landmeister]

I think I got it. Thank you very much for your help.