Omen % ranges

[dojoboy]

My current Omen chances are 50.5%. What can I expect to reach by concentrating in this area?

 

[cwg9]

If you are playing Greek or Druidic, then your omen success chance will get up to 90% about 50 to 100 years or so into the game.

For all other religions, your Gods are modelled by paradox as mostly powerless weaklings, so you'll be lucky if you can get your success rate above 60%.

The moral of the story is only bother building temples when you have extra cash to burn, prioritizing them is not worth as it makes very little difference to your religion's power or success chance.

Also paradox really needs to patch out the advantages Greek and Druidic relgions get, so they no longer have such a huge and ridiculous advantage over the other religions.

 

[lenny]

Indeed. There are so many greek provinces and many of them start out with temples, so Greek religious prestige (and so their omen chance) will go through the roof quickly. Similarly for Druidic, although they have less temples.

For the other religions, there is a national idea which increases your omen chance, character traits if you get lucky with rulers and temporary modifiers. I once got an 80% omen chance as Carthage due to events, but it was only temporary. My normal chance is about 52%, with temples in all Carthagian provinces.

 

[Andy_Dandy]

If you are playing Greek or Druidic, then your omen success chance will get up to 90% about 50 to 100 years or so into the game.

For all other religions, your Gods are modelled by paradox as mostly powerless weaklings, so you'll be lucky if you can get your success rate above 60%.

The moral of the story is only bother building temples when you have extra cash to burn, prioritizing them is not worth as it makes very little difference to your religion's power or success chance.

Also paradox really needs to patch out the advantages Greek and Druidic relgions get, so they no longer have such a huge and ridiculous advantage over the other religions.

I'm glad the greek religion has this advantage, remember that greek culture was the strongest too in this age; first half of game. Makes it slighty harder to play Rome and Carthage, and a bit easier for greek minors. Egypt and Seleucia have problems enough in my games, draining eachother.

 

[cwg9]

I'm glad the greek religion has this advantage, remember that greek culture was the strongest too in this age; first half of game. Makes it slighty harder to play Rome and Carthage, and a bit easier for greek minors. Egypt and Seleucia have problems enough in my games, draining eachother.

Umm, keep in mind that the mighty Seleucids are the greek religion as well so they get this advantage too... like they need it!

My complaint about this mechanic is not really that the greeks (and to a lesser extent druids) get a head start in the religious power game, but rather that there is no way for the other religions to catch up. You say in your post that this is for the first half of the game... actually it is for the whole game, every game. As Rome, Carthage, or Egypt, if you focus on converting provinces to your religion and building temples, you still won't get anywhere close to catching up to the greeks. Ergo, Greeks get a 90% success chance advantage for most of the game, while the others are are unlikely to ever get above the 60% range, if that.

I really think paradox needs to do something to balance the different religions better.

 

[unmerged(60148)]

I think that religious prestige is buggy, the numbers don't add up at all. The druid religion with 3 temples total can easily be in the 600 range .

 

[unmerged(94472)]

I posted on this a while back - there is no need to build Temples, ever. The Greeks don't need them, and the other religions don't benefit enough.

If Temples had additional benefits - say reducing revolt risks in newly-conquered provinces, there would be motivation to build them.

 

[whosthebestcop]

If I play a Greek like others have said there is absolutely no need to build temples. If you play as anyone else there is still no need to build temples. Since you will never ever be able to convert most of your empire to your religion especially if you are Rome.

When I am playing non Greeks I don't even bother with the Religion aspect of the game. Your Omen % will never get 75-90%. So why even bother?