Oldest families in crusader kings?

[Kanaric]

Decided to play this again and i'm curious about what are some of the oldest families in crusader kings? I only know of the following:

Vermandois - played as them, achieved goal of becoming Byzantine emperor. Charlemagne family.
Bagratuni - old armenian/georgia family made a new armenian empire.
Rurikovich - havn't played as them yet may be my next game. Descendants of Rurik.


What are some others?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Decided to play this again and i'm curious about what are some of the oldest families in crusader kings? I only know of the following:

Vermandois - played as them, achieved goal of becoming Byzantine emperor. Charlemagne family.
Bagratuni - old armenian/georgia family made a new armenian empire.
Rurikovich - havn't played as them yet may be my next game. Descendants of Rurik.


What are some others?

Check the count of Ulaid, his dynastie goes back to, IIRC, the 7th century in game.

 

[TelcontarElessa]

Maybe not that old, but Duke Azzo d'Este has oldest son taking his mother's dynasty, Guelph Welf. They are old, and furthermore, they survive to this day, and great Henry the Lion was of the same dynasty. Problem to play as them you will have to grant him lands, since he is marshall in duchy of Bavaria.

 

[Kanaric]

Check the count of Ulaid, his dynastie goes back to, IIRC, the 7th century in game.

Sounds like a good idea to play as them.