Old World Map - (Arabia Universalis)

[cool-toxic]

So haven't had the time to edit the map yet, but I will do that next. Here is an update of the nations.

 

[cool-toxic]

Well here is the big update for you all ! I have finished assigning cultures to Asia. So now we can revise the list to fit Africa as well and then cultures are done.

Here is the setup.

http://www.abtirsi.com/arabiauniversalis/Cultures.jpg

Hint: The cultures which have no name in parenthesis use the same name in the files. All the others have their tag listed behind them.

[COLOR="DarkRed"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_NONE;none;;;;;;;;;;1603[/COLOR]
CULTURE_ITALIAN;Roman;;;;;;;;;;1604
CULTURE_GERMAN;Saxon;;;;;;;;;;1605
CULTURE_ARABIC;Arabic;;;;;;;;;;1606
CULTURE_IBERIAN;Ibero-Roman;;;;;;;;;;1607
CULTURE_GAELIC;Celtic;;;;;;;;;;1608
CULTURE_BASQUE;Basque;;;;;;;;;;1609
CULTURE_FRENCH;Frankish;;;;;;;;;;1610
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_RUSSIAN;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1611[/COLOR]
CULTURE_ANGLOSAXON;Anglian;;;;;;;;;;1612
CULTURE_BERBER;Berber;;;;;;;;;;1613
CULTURE_SCANDINAVIAN;Nordic;;;;;;;;;;1614
CULTURE_UGRIC;Finno-Ugric;;;;;;;;;;1615
CULTURE_SLAVONIC;Slavonic;;;;;;;;;;1616
CULTURE_GREEK;Greek;;;;;;;;;;1617
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_ZAPOTEK;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1618[/COLOR]
CULTURE_MAYAN;Polabian;;;;;;;;;;1619
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_AZTEK;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1620
CULTURE_ROMANIAN;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1621[/COLOR]
CULTURE_MAGYAR;Hungarian;;;;;;;;;;1622
CULTURE_ALBANIAN;Thuringian;;;;;;;;;;1623
CULTURE_JAPANESE;Japanese;;;;;;;;;;1624
CULTURE_IROQUIS;Jutish;;;;;;;;;;1625
CULTURE_INDIAN;Coptic;;;;;;;;;;1626
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_SIKH;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1627[/COLOR]
CULTURE_ANDEAN;Bavarian;;;;;;;;;;1628
CULTURE_CZECH;Bohemian;;;;;;;;;;1629
CULTURE_DUTCH;Frisian;;;;;;;;;;1630
CULTURE_GEORGIAN;Georgian;;;;;;;;;;1631
CULTURE_SLOVAK;Pannonian;;;;;;;;;;1632
CULTURE_MALTESE;Avar;;;;;;;;;;1633
CULTURE_CANARY;Lombardian;;;;;;;;;;1634
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]CULTURE_HAWAIIAN;Lamtuna;;;;;;;;;;1635
CULTURE_MADAGASQUE;Zaghawa;;;;;;;;;;1636
CULTURE_TUAREG;Tuareg;;;;;;;;;;1637
CULTURE_SENEGAMBIAN;Senegambian;;;;;;;;;;1638
CULTURE_DYOLA;Dyola;;;;;;;;;;1639[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_MALAY;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1640[/COLOR]
CULTURE_FILIPPINE;Pomeranian;;;;;;;;;;1641
CULTURE_JAVAN;Habash;;;;;;;;;;1642
CULTURE_MELANESE;Moravian;;;;;;;;;;1643
CULTURE_ABORIGIN;Cushite;;;;;;;;;;1644
CULTURE_POLYNESE;Sogdian;;;;;;;;;;1645
CULTURE_NUBIAN;Nubian;;;;;;;;;;1646
CULTURE_SOMALI;Beja;;;;;;;;;;1647
CULTURE_BANTU;Carinthian;;;;;;;;;;1648
CULTURE_HURON;Pecheneg;;;;;;;;;;1649
CULTURE_CHEROKEE;Bulgar;;;;;;;;;;1650
CULTURE_CREEK;Prussian;;;;;;;;;;1651
CULTURE_NAVAJO;Gallo-Roman;;;;;;;;;;1652
CULTURE_DAKOTA;Alamannian;;;;;;;;;;1653
CULTURE_SHAWNEE;Khazar;;;;;;;;;;1654
CULTURE_DELAWARE;Kyrgyz;;;;;;;;;;1655
CULTURE_ARMENIAN;Armenian;;;;;;;;;;1656
CULTURE_BALUCHI;Baloch;;;;;;;;;;1657
CULTURE_TURKISH;Turgesh;;;;;;;;;;1658
CULTURE_PERSIAN;Persian;;;;;;;;;;1659
CULTURE_KURDISH;Kurdish;;;;;;;;;;1660
CULTURE_MONGOL;Khitan;;;;;;;;;;1661
CULTURE_AFGHANI;Punjabi;;;;;;;;;;1662
CULTURE_UZBEHK;Kimek;;;;;;;;;;1663
CULTURE_KHAZAK;Qarluq;;;;;;;;;;1664
CULTURE_LITHUANIAN;Mohe;;;;;;;;;;1665
CULTURE_POLISH;Polish;;;;;;;;;;1666
CULTURE_SWAHILI;Swahili;;;;;;;;;;1667
CULTURE_THAI;Tai;;;;;;;;;;1668
CULTURE_VIETNAMESE;Yui;;;;;;;;;;1669
CULTURE_BURMANESE;Burmese;;;;;;;;;;1670
CULTURE_KHMER;Khmer;;;;;;;;;;1671
CULTURE_INDONESIAN;Austronesian;;;;;;;;;;1672
CULTURE_KOREAN;Korean;;;;;;;;;;1673
CULTURE_TIBETAN;Tibetan;;;;;;;;;;1674
CULTURE_HAN;Han;;;;;;;;;;1675
CULTURE_MANCHU;Tungus;;;;;;;;;;1676
CULTURE_SWISS;Wu-Min;;;;;;;;;;1677
CULTURE_CANTONESE;Chu;;;;;;;;;;1678
CULTURE_ETHIOPIAN;Ainu;;;;;;;;;;1679
CULTURE_LAOTIAN;Pyu;;;;;;;;;;1680
CULTURE_CAMBODIAN;Mon;;;;;;;;;;1681
CULTURE_KONGOLESE;Cham;;;;;;;;;;1682
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]CULTURE_SHONA;Soninke;;;;;;;;;;1683
CULTURE_MALI;Mandinka;;;;;;;;;;1684
CULTURE_YORUMBA;Yorumba;;;;;;;;;;1685
CULTURE_AKA;Akan;;;;;;;;;;1686
CULTURE_ASHANTI;Mossi;;;;;;;;;;1687[/COLOR]
CULTURE_RUTHENIAN;Ruthenian;;;;;;;;;;1688
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]CULTURE_ALEUTIAN;Bedouin;;;;;;;;;;1689[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]CULTURE_MESOAMERICAN;FREE;;;;;;;;;;1690[/COLOR]
CULTURE_MISSISSIPPIAN;Sindhi;;;;;;;;;;1691
CULTURE_ABENAKI;Kamarupa;;;;;;;;;;1692
CULTURE_NASKAPI;Oriya;;;;;;;;;;1693
CULTURE_INUIT;Brythonic;;;;;;;;;;1694
CULTURE_CREE;Pictish;;;;;;;;;;1695
CULTURE_CARIBBEAN;Sinhalese;;;;;;;;;;1696
CULTURE_GUAJIRO;Alan;;;;;;;;;;1697
CULTURE_PATAGONIAN;Tamil;;;;;;;;;;1698
CULTURE_AMAZONIAN;Malayalam;;;;;;;;;;1699
CULTURE_TEREMEMBE;Kannadiga;;;;;;;;;;1700
CULTURE_TUPINAMBA;Huna;;;;;;;;;;1701
CULTURE_MATACO;Chorasmian;;;;;;;;;;1702
CULTURE_BALTIC;Baltic;;;;;;;;;;1703
CULTURE_UKRAINIAN;Oghuz;;;;;;;;;;1704
CULTURE_SYRIAN;Syrian;;;;;;;;;;1705
CULTURE_ALTAI;Uyghur;;;;;;;;;;1706
CULTURE_HINDI;Hindi;;;;;;;;;;1707
CULTURE_DRAVIDIAN;Telugu;;;;;;;;;;1708
CULTURE_GUJARATI;Gujarati;;;;;;;;;;1709
CULTURE_BENGALI;Bengali;;;;;;;;;;1710
CULTURE_MARATHI;Marathi;;;;;;;;;;1711[/COLOR]

Free
Have to be decided
Used

 

[cool-toxic]

Here is a link for the newest map.

http://rapidshare.com/files/238244619/map.rar.html

And I will also update the id map. I have added the changes we talked about Third Angel.

 

[Emperor_krk]

Just out of curiousity, what are those pink stripes on some Asia Minor provinces and the teal one on Tuzla?

 

[cool-toxic]

Very good question, it is greek and slavonic culture. Just haven't finished them, so while I was checking the provinces these were the first and I never got through it all.

 

[Emperor_krk]

Ah, and another minor thing: you're sure Halych should be Pannonian? As far as i know, it was something between Ruthenian and Lędzian (Lenzaninoi I think they were called by the Byzantines; one of the Polish tribes, anyway). Or, according to my Ukrainian atlas, it should be Croatian or Slavonic (as you probably are aware, the Croatians later migrated from there to present-day Croatia), later replaced by Ruthenians. Also, the Przemysl-Cherven area seems to be a disputed one between Polish and Ukrainian historians, each claiming that those lands had been populated by, respectively, Polish and Ruthenian tribes. Therefore, I'd divide it like this: Cherven and Halych Ruthenian, Przemysl Polish, and the Lendians tribe should have both cultures as national.

 

[cool-toxic]

The Pannonian does represent the White Croats as well. So that is why I made them Pannonian. But couldn't Cherven just be Ruthenian then ?

 

[cool-toxic]

Here are some more new screenshots !

Try to imagine that you are the Emperor of Tang and you have to keep your empire together. I hope we can add all ten rebel nations in China so that we can get a nice civil war ! But I know that we are running low on tags unfortunately.

 

[Emperor_krk]

The Pannonian does represent the White Croats as well. So that is why I made them Pannonian. But couldn't Cherven just be Ruthenian then ?

Ah, good then . One will have to script a culture change for Halych after the Croat departure, then.
And that's precisely what I meant with Cherven, but couldn't express it clearly .

 

[cool-toxic]

Ah, good then . One will have to script a culture change for Halych after the Croat departure, then.
And that's precisely what I meant with Cherven, but couldn't express it clearly .

Good. Now tomorrow I will continue adding the last nations. Oh and I might have exaggerated a bit when saying we are running low on tags. There are atm still 117 tags left. But on the cultures as you can all see there are few left.

 

[cool-toxic]

I have split the Ch'ing-yuan province in south China(I will make the correct font, this is just a preview):

Nanling has the ID 1517 just as a note.

 

[Third Angel]

Here is a link for the newest map.

http://rapidshare.com/files/238244619/map.rar.html

And I will also update the id map. I have added the changes we talked about Third Angel.

Thanks a lot, looks much better now.

 

[Mad King James]

I have split the Ch'ing-yuan province in south China(I will make the correct font, this is just a preview):

Nanling has the ID 1517 just as a note.

Looks good
Hmm for the Five Dynasty period it's true we do need to split that province don't we.

The names are too modern though. The northern province should remain Ch'ing-yuan but the southern province should be Kuang-hsi, the regional designation for the area. The southern area isn't really a province at this time and only has a smattering of towns, none of which have administrative authority. However it doesn't make much sense since Kuang is a seperate province, so Kuang-hsi is a bit counterintuitive.

Under the Ming, 500 years after the game ends, Lien-chou (At the game era time known only as Lien) WAS made into a regional capital, so we could call the southern province Lien.

 

[cool-toxic]

Exactly. I did read about the province and cities, but I found no good names for the provinces for this period. Nanling is a mountain range and Guangnanxi is the name of the area later on.

About cities I have Yulin for Lien and Longcheng for Nanling which btw I think is a better name because near Shanghai there is another Ch'ing-yuan province. And from the start both provinces will be under Tang.

 

[cool-toxic]

I have been busy and now I have finished the terrain and climate for China, Tibet, Korea, Indochina and India. Next up is Indonesia and then the climate of the rest of the map.

 

[cool-toxic]

So here it is if you want to try the newest province setup download this province.csv.

http://www.savefile.com/files/2121881

EDIT: Just finished a sketch of the known provinces for each country so now I just have to make these lists and assign to the corresponding nations and voila all nations will be in the game.

 

[cool-toxic]

Be sure to check out the finalized culture map. I have also finished the religions. So now I can continue the nation setup.

http://www.abtirsi.com/arabiauniversalis/Cultures.jpg

 

[cool-toxic]

I have added the Indian and South East Asian nations. Now I need to add Malayan, Indonesian, Korean, Japanese and West African nations and then nations are done.

Btw, I did add Turgesh and Kamarupa after these so those two unsettled spots are nations now.

 

[elvain]

it looks better and better, great job, Alex!

Be sure to check out the finalized culture map. I have also finished the religions. So now I can continue the nation setup.

http://www.abtirsi.com/arabiauniversalis/Cultures.jpg

I'm just wondering.. why did you finally decided to remove the Daylamese culture? I think that NW Iran should have somehow different culture (at least in the beggining to reflect the tougher resistance to the caliphate's exapansion.

One more not is that I don't think there should be Czech and Moravian cultures. There definitely shold not be 3 culture sin present day Czechia and Slovakia.

I can imagine 2/3 possible layouts:
1) leave Bohemian culture as it is and merge Moravian and Pannonian (there is a theory, that Bohemian Slavs came from the northeast - through Poland, while the Moravians belonged to the Pannonian branch. This should IMO be called Pannonian

2) Merge Bohemian and Moravian into Moravian culture + move Marchfeld, Austria and Rakaus under Moravian culture

3) merge them all into Moravian culture

 

[cool-toxic]

it looks better and better, great job, Alex!

I'm just wondering.. why did you finally decided to remove the Daylamese culture? I think that NW Iran should have somehow different culture (at least in the beggining to reflect the tougher resistance to the caliphate's exapansion.

Well the Umayyads will only have Arabic as their national culture so it does not matter. The reason for this is that I did mention it: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9587045&postcount=901 and there was no response and I did not know how to split Persian so if you have any better ideas than I am all ears.

One more not is that I don't think there should be Czech and Moravian cultures. There definitely shold not be 3 culture sin present day Czechia and Slovakia.

I can imagine 2/3 possible layouts:
1) leave Bohemian culture as it is and merge Moravian and Pannonian (there is a theory, that Bohemian Slavs came from the northeast - through Poland, while the Moravians belonged to the Pannonian branch. This should IMO be called Pannonian

2) Merge Bohemian and Moravian into Moravian culture + move Marchfeld, Austria and Rakaus under Moravian culture

3) merge them all into Moravian culture

Hmm I think option 2 is best what do you say?