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I am sorry for posting only now, but yesterday i had some unseen problems and i wasnt at home. When i arived i had to test something for another game, and then went straight to bed since i was exhausted.

Anyway Lyko, here we go.

First, England was never totaly AIed-Ghosted for one single session. The only exception to this was session 2. The others sessions, we either:

1º had a sub for England for the whole session
2º had a sub for England that could not play the whole session
3º played with an AIed and then got a sub later on

You can check this by asking everyone in this game, plus confirming in the stats. Daniel for example, played some nation that i cannot currently remember, and then we had to move him to England because ghosted England was at war vs Denmark.

I do not like to give edits to a nation that has never been totaly AIed/ghosted for one single session (exception is session 2 as stated before). And honestly, in session 2 i doubt England could expand their wealth considerably. They had already given whole mainland France to France and trading with so many AIs existing, and with such a low TE isnt a reliable source of income either.

After checking the game closely, i noticed the following:

LT COSTS

From 12 to 13 - 6896
From 13 to 14 - 5816
From 14 to 15 - 2933
From 15 to 16 - 2951


NT COSTS

From 13 to 14 - 5816
From 14 to 15 - 2933
From 15 to 16 - 2951
From 16 to 17 - 9034


Making the exact calculations, 4 LT and 4 NT given cheaply to England would mean 39330d edited in.

Taking another close look, Joohoo have been playing efectively since 1530. He did not enter a single war from what i remember, and was blessed with Elizabeth's Reign since 1558. The maximum profit (till he left) he took from trading was 600d. Furthermore, Daniel PERMed Sweden at the same time Joohoo PERMed England. They had the same economy and the same trade level. While Daniel managed to get nearly 2500d of trade income till this very day, Joohoo couldnt even get past the 600d.

I do not want to blame you for someone's ineficiency, nor i want you to pay for it. But understand that by strenghtning England we are weakening English' enemies indirectly.

Despite England being AIed/Ghosted for little more then 30 years (16 of these years being at session 2, a time period where England could not "hypertech"), i propose 4 LT, 2 NT and 3 DP sliders given to England (such would mean 27345d invested into tech).
 

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Ok, it's just that when i played with spain i rememeber it being ghosted alot because our perm never showed up. i remember Daniel subing it and got it to colonize some. but i don't remember any other subs then daniel, and it looks like my memory failed me. :) if England actually had subs then ur edits will be most generous:)
 

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Please state your DP moves Lyko.
 

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i don't know.. getting Dp clicks is a bitch for me:) i want to have unlimted muhahaha:D can't decide haha:) cheaper ships or better tech,, more colonists or lesser colonists:)

have to make some simulations first ;)
 

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I am the GM and i will try to help you guys testing watk/conection. I already added both to my ICQ, but both are either offline or did not yet authorize me. When i am online, please ask me in ICQ, but if i do not answer, it is because i am not in the computer. I am usually at night, but i could be busy.

State the hours you are able to test the conection and i will show up.



EDITED:

Tried Ironfirst already: he is working nicely. He can join the game without a problem.
 
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Daniel, i did indeed test his conection. But i never could join his games, nor he could join mine. It always said "No Game found at Ip something". So, we only have Ironfist. :(
 

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Pual atm doesnt know how to configure his router and the online guides are hard to read if you DNKWTFYR doing. When i have time I'll help him configure the bugger.
 
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DNKWTFYR - one of the better "shortenings" there is (abbreviations???). :D

Indeed, abbrevation. What does it mean? Dont Know What The F*ck Youre Doing? :p
 

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