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It's for the good of our country so I need a quick apporval on this:

It consiste of: Duble the people working in the Recom

Creation of a Govermental enterprise with the mission showing the good things in about investing economically speking in EUtopia. So the "For-Eutopia Invesment company"
NOTE: I need to talk with PEO:

The creation of a small business govermental investment company.


Okay. duble the people working on the RECOM because like everyone know the natural resurses on the island are not well explorered and the ones that are explored, are explored untill the exhaustion. And this can't be. for example ( like everybody knowse ) the resorses in the WET are depleated and it will take year to make like it was before. And the RECOM will, with more people, be habel to make a good conservation of the resourses. and even if nessessary make replantation of many acres of Trees that were destroyed by years of bad exploration.

The creation of the For-Eutopian investmant company because we are in a global war, a economical war. And EUtopia isn't winnig because many economist don't know the potecial of EUtopia.
I believe that with the Creation of a Govermental enterprise with the mission showing the good things in about investing economically speking in EUtopia. So the "For-Eutopia Invesment company" will be created and EUtopia will finally have is spot in this economical war.
NOTE: the MDIA allready gave the green light.

The third, because with the changes in the labor law will help many people working in the big factaries BUT it may also have a negative effect in the small business. And with the help of this company the small bussiness will not be SO affected by the new labour laws.

This are the reasons. Now your answer.
 

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OK, METI, you can start with your projects.

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Okay. duble the people working on the RECOM because like everyone know the natural resurses on the island are not well explorered and the ones that are explored, are explored untill the exhaustion. And this can't be. for example ( like everybody knowse ) the resorses in the WET are depleated and it will take year to make like it was before. And the RECOM will, with more people, be habel to make a good conservation of the resourses. and even if nessessary make replantation of many acres of Trees that were destroyed by years of bad exploration.
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This is effectively a description of game setting and background and as such needs approval by the GM Content. For the time being (and until the GM Content approves changes to the setting), the claims it contains seem in conflict with some of the existing background information.
  • On the WET: "It is the traditional home of the Native Eutopians and the Nordic Eutopians, though in recent years several boomtowns have grown up around newly-discovered natural resources."
  • On Jacobia: "A good amount of coal is mined in the mountains in the west [...]."
  • On Nueva Rioja: "The temperate rain forest covering much of the province makes for the main industry - logging [...]."
All three excerpts suggest that at least some resources are far from depleted. In addition, the background doesn't mention resource depletion or lack of exploration.]
 

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[OOC] I read some here that for many years the trees in WET here taken in a savage way. That was why I say that[/OOC]
 

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Originally posted by I_Killed-Kenny
[OOC] I read some here that for many years the trees in WET here taken in a savage way. That was why I say that[/OOC]
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I'm not sure that's part of the setting/background; could you refer me to the post in question? Also, ruthless exploitation of resources doesn't necessarily equal resource depletion or lack of exploration, and the state of one resource sector may not necessarily reflect the state of others. ;)]
 

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[OOC] I didn't say lack of exploration I said BAD EXPLORATION it isn't the same ;) [/OOC]
 

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Originally posted by I_Killed-Kenny
[OOC] I didn't say lack of exploration I said BAD EXPLORATION it isn't the same ;) [/OOC]
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Maybe we have different understandings of what "exploration" means in this context; to my mind, exploration refers to prospecting/discovery and charting of resources. Hence, I'd interpret "not well explored" as "lack of exploration." Either way, that's a somewhat tangential issue. :)]
 

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[OOC] for example in an area were you could take 100 kilos of some thing only 50 can be used in the industry this is bad exploration!!![/OOC]
 

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Originally posted by I_Killed-Kenny
[OOC] for example in an area were you could take 100 kilos of some thing only 50 can be used in the industry this is bad exploration!!![/OOC]
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I think you may be referring to "extraction," "exploitation" or "development" rather than "exploration."]
 

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[OOC] probably that wasn't the best name to use. Remember my first languague isn't english, I'm you a portuguese teenager[/OOC]
 

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Originally posted by I_Killed-Kenny
[OOC] probably that wasn't the best name to use. Remember my first languague isn't english, I'm you a portuguese teenager[/OOC]
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It wasn't meant as a critique (sorry if it came across that way) - just trying to make sure we're not talking past each other. :)]
 

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A diplomatic crisis with the French has occured!

I urge my Government and the Parliament to look into the matter. I will contact the French Authorities to release all Eutopian Citizens at once.
We will file a formal complaint with the UN.
 

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As I understand it, the French accuse us of piracy, while they seem to have taken irresponsible and harmful actions against Eutopian citizens.

Though facts surrounding this case seem to be hard to confirm, I think we should first look at international convention concerning signed agreements about these issues. This will not only define "piracy" and potentially refute French claims, but it may also provide us with evidence of French violations of treaty.

I have posted excerpts of the treaty here. For full text, please visit this link: CONVENTION ON THE HIGH SEAS .

We, I believe, would have signed the treaty around 1958 as part of our UN Membership.

Please pay particular attention to the sections regarding Piracy. I think we may be able to build a good case against the French.

However, I think it is IMPERATIVE that we determine whether these incidents occurred in international waters or Eutopian waters. If these actions occurred in our own sovereign waters, then I think we are obligated to a very different response than if this took place in international waters.

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CONVENTION ON THE HIGH SEAS
DONE AT GENEVA, ON 29 APRIL 1958
(EXCERPTS)

The States Parties to this Convention,

Desiring to codify the rules of international law relating to the high
seas, recognizing that the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea, held at Geneva from 24 February to 27 April 1958, adopted the followingprovisions as generally declaratory of established principles of international law,have agreed as follows:

Article 1

The term "high seas" means all parts of the sea that are not included in the territorial sea or in the internal waters of a State.

Article 2

The high seas being open to all nations, no State may validly purport to subject any part of them to its sovereignty. Freedom of the high seas is exercised under the conditions laid down by these articles and by the other rules of international law. It comprises, inter alia, both for coastal and non-coastal States:

(1) Freedom of navigation;
(2) Freedom of fishing;
(3) Freedom to lay submarine cables and pipelines;
(4) Freedom to fly over the high seas.

These freedoms, and others which are recognized by the general principles of international law, shall be exercised by all States with reasonable regard to the interests of other States in their exercise of the freedom of the high seas.

Article 3 - not germane to discussion

Article 4 - not germane to discussion

Article 5

1. Each State shall fix the conditions for the grant of its nationality to ships, for the registration of ships in its territory, and for the right to fly its flag. Ships have the nationality of the State whose flag they are entitled to fly. There must exist a genuine link between the State and the ship; in particular, the State must effectively exercise its jurisdiction and control in administrative, technical and social matters over ships
flying its flag.

2. Each State shall issue to ships to which it has granted the right to fly its flag documents to that effect.

Article 6 & 7 - not germane to discussion

Article 8

1. Warships on the high seas have complete immunity from the jurisdiction of any State other than the flag State.

2. For the purposes of these articles, the term "warship" means a ship belonging to the naval forces of a State and bearing the external marks distinguishing warships of its nationality, under the command of an officer duly commissioned by the government and whose name appears in the Navy List, and manned by a crew who are under regular naval discipline.

Article 9

Ships owned or operated by a State and used only on government noncommercial service shall, on the high seas, have complete immunity from the jurisdiction of any State other than the flag State.

Article 10

1. Every State shall take such measures for ships under its flag as are necessary to ensure safety at sea with regard inter alia to:

(a) The use of signals, the maintenance of communications and the prevention of collisions;
(b) The manning of ships and labour conditions for crews taking into account the applicable international labour instruments;
(c) The construction, equipment and seaworthiness of ships.

2. In taking such measures each State is required to conform to generally accepted international standards and to take any steps which may be necessary to ensure their observance.

Article 11

1. In the event of a collision or of any other incident of navigation
concerning a ship on the high seas, involving the penal or disciplinary responsibility of the master or of any other person in the service of theship, no penal or disciplinary proceedings may be instituted against such persons except before the judicial or administrative authorities either of the flag State or of the State of which such person is a national.

2. In disciplinary matters, the State which has issued a master's
certificate or a certificate of competence or licence shall alone be
competent, after due legal process, to pronounce the withdrawal of such certificates, even if the holder is not a national of the State which issued them.

3. No arrest or detention of the ship, even as a measure of investigation, shall be ordered by any authorities other than those of the flag State.

Article 12

1. Every State shall require the master of a ship sailing under its flag,in so far as he can do so without serious danger to the ship, the crew or the passengers,

(a) To render assistance to any person found at sea in danger of being lost;
(b) To proceed with all possible speed to the rescue of persons in
distress if informed of their need of assistance, in so far as such action may reasonably be expected of him;
(c) After a collision, to render assistance to the other ship, her crew and her passengers and, where possible, to inform the other ship of the name of his own ship, her port of registry and the nearest port at which she will call.

2. Every coastal State shall promote the establishment and maintenance of an adequate and effective search and rescue service regarding safety on and over the sea and--where circumstances so require--by way of mutual regional
arrangements co-operate with neighbouring States for this purpose.

Article 13 & 14 - not germane to discussion

Article 14

All States shall co-operate to the fullest possible extent in the
repression of piracy on the high seas or in any other place outside the jurisdiction of any State.

Article 15

Piracy consists of any of the following acts:

(1) Any illegal acts of violence, detention or any act of depredation,committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, and directed:

(a) On the high seas, against another ship or aircraft, or against
persons or property on board such ship or aircraft;
(b) Against a ship, aircraft, persons or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any State;

(2) Any act of voluntary participation in the operation of a ship or of an aircraft with knowledge of facts making it a pirate ship or aircraft;

(3) Any act of inciting or of intentionally facilitating an act described in sub-paragraph 1 or sub-paragraph 2 of this article.

Article 16

The acts of piracy, as defined in article 15, committed by a warship, government ship or government aircraft whose crew has mutinied and taken control of the ship or aircraft are assimilated to acts committed by a private ship.

Article 17

A ship or aircraft is considered a pirate ship or aircraft if it is
intended by the persons in dominant control to be used for the purpose of committing one of the acts referred to in article 15. The same applies if the ship or aircraft has been used to commit any such act, so long as it remains under the control of the persons guilty of that act.

Article 18

A ship or aircraft may retain its nationality although it has become a pirate ship or aircraft. The retention or loss of nationality is determined by the law of the State from which such nationality was derived.

Article 19

On the high seas, or in any other place outside the jurisdiction of any State, every State may seize a pirate ship or aircraft, or a ship taken by piracy and under the control of pirates, and arrest the persons and seize the property on board. The courts of the State which carried out the seizure may decide upon the penalties to be imposed, and may also determine
the action to be taken with regard to the ships, aircraft or property, subject to the rights of third parties acting in good faith.

Article 20

Where the seizure of a ship or aircraft on suspicion of piracy has been effected without adequate grounds, the State making the seizure shall be liable to the State the nationality of which is possessed by the ship or aircraft, for any loss or damage caused by the seizure.

Article 21

A seizure on account of piracy may only be carried out by warships or military aircraft, or other ships or aircraft on government service authorized to that effect.

Article 22

1. Except where acts of interference derive from powers conferred by treaty, a warship which encounters a foreign merchant ship on the high seas is not justified in boarding her unless there is reasonable ground for suspecting:

(a) That the ship is engaged in piracy; or
(b) That the ship is engaged in the slave trade; or
(c) That though flying a foreign flag or refusing to show its flag, the
ship is, in reality, of the same nationality as the warship.

2. In the cases provided for in sub-paragraphs (a), (b) and (c) above, the warship may proceed to verify the ship's right to fly its flag. To thisend, it may send a boat under the command of an officer to the suspected ship. If suspicion remains after the documents have been checked, it mayproceed to a further examination on board the ship, which must be carried
out with all possible consideration.

3. If the suspicions prove to be unfounded, and provided that the ship boarded has not committed any act justifying them, it shall be compensated for any loss or damage that may have been sustained.

Article 23

1. The hot pursuit of a foreign ship may be undertaken when the competent authorities of the coastal State have good reason to believe that the ship has violated the laws and regulations of that State. Such pursuit must be commenced when the foreign ship or one of its boats is within the internal waters or the territorial sea or the contiguous zone of the pursuing State, and may only be continued outside the territorial sea or the contiguous zone if the pursuit has not been interrupted. It is not necessary that, at
the time when the foreign ship within the territorial sea or the contiguous zone receives the order to stop, the ship giving the order should likewise be within the territorial sea or the contiguous zone. If the foreign ship is within a contiguous zone, as defined in article 24 of the Convention on the Territorial Sea and the Contiguous Zone, the pursuit may only be undertaken if there has been a violation of the rights for the protection
of which the zone was established.

2. The right of hot pursuit ceases as soon as the ship pursued enters the territorial sea of its own country or of a third State.

3. - 6. (More Details on Hot Pursuit)

7. Where a ship has been stopped or arrested on the high seas in
circumstances which do not justify the exercise of the right of hot
pursuit, it shall be compensated for any loss or damage that may have been thereby sustained.

Remaining Articles - not germane to discussion
 

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President Murmurandus,

It seems there's some sentiment from the RD not to continue on with the Commision on Social Welfare Benefits and Workers' Rights.

I made a pledge to you to form this commission and initiate serious discussions about this issue before the end of your term.

While I certainly understand that a new MHSA may have his or her own agenda and designs for the commission, I felt that it was important to create the commission now, and see its work begin, even if a future minister wants to take it in a different direction.

If you would rather delay the commission, please let me know and I will suspend its work.

Respectfully,

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I don't have mutch to do with the french incident. Bu tstill I have a work because I'm a member of this goverment. I think that we before think about a reformation of the amry we should think about the a refdormation of the coast guard!!!!! So we can patrol our national waters. And then stop any tipe of piracy that involve ships in this area. The french can not do some thing like this and we should oreder the imidiate retorne of all the boats an crews! If they do not compline in 2 days all the french ship sould be not allowed to enter our Exclusive Economical Zone. And all who don't do what is ordered should be arrested.


[OOC] What happen with the new treaty of the fishing areas??? nobody did anythig about it!!!!!![/OOC]
 

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Dear Mr. Teano,

Thank you for your comments regarding the French Incident. This would indeed help us when we file this to the UN.

Regarding your Commission; please continue working on that. If I find the time I follow this close as possible.

Good work & best regards,

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Well sorry for the long absence.
I did not know how to handle the first small inceident other than a formal protest to France.

France has however now with the last illegal arrests of Eutopian citizens crossed the line of what can be met via formal protest.

Sadly this is happening at the same time as our election which makes it complex to handle.

I propose that i as the probably last act of beeing minister of foreign affairs go to France personaly to discuss this with the French foreign minister.
I also suggest that we to protect our fishermen dispatch parts of the surface fleet there to aid the coast guard in this area.
Of course with strict rules of not using force.

If France decides to press this dispute further we might have a very tricky situation.
It could sadly mean a breakdown of our relations with France.
 

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I would concur that something should be done and that the elections seem to have pushed this event from the public's radar.

I would also make one last desperate plea for people to join the Commission on Social Welfare and Workers' Benefits, but it looks as if it has been effectively boycotted. :(
 

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[OOC: I am wondering how we can talk to the French Government or how to file a complaint with the UN - I mean game tech wise...:eek: ]
 

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Originally posted by Murmurandus
[OOC: I am wondering how we can talk to the French Government or how to file a complaint with the UN - I mean game tech wise...:eek: ]
[OOC:

Well, regarding unilateral statements/request by us, we can simply pretend they happened. :D Regarding reactions by the UN or France, that would probably be up to Blade!.]
 
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