Ok it's 1474 and I revoked the priveligia...now what?

[Jay916]

I really don't even know what steps to take next. I'm pretty sure I could beat up anybody now with all these vassals. But where do I go? And also I'm planning on giving lots of land to my vassals but I have to make sure there is a land connection correct otherwise they won't be able to core it right? I mean I'm planning on beating up France but I would have to make sure any land I take is possible of being cored by my vassals...and yeah I just don't know what to do now haha. Any advice and tips PLEASE give them I would be most appreciative.

Also I took Dip for my first idea group. What's a good second one now?

 

[Terry L Lyndon]

Damn it you settled for greyskin!

 

[miguellima]

You could break up France into the multiple vassals that they can have (around 10 i think) and add them to the HRE. I don't know if the AI will add it themselves so you might have to core the territory then release the vassal.

Also, you obviously used the exploit mentioned in another thread, which is one i'm not gonna use because, in my opinion, removes the fun of forming the HRE. To me it's like cheating. The first time i formed the HRE i used cheats and soon after that left the game and started a new one because it wasn't fun anymore.

 

[Xinkc]

Now what? How about finishing off the rest of Europe with your vassal swarm? Then spread out from there and destroy/conquer the world.

 

[herrhals]

Show us if it possible to conquer the world in AoW.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

Show us if it possible to conquer the world in AoW.

Someone did an Achievement WC in 1654, so a one tag WC is probably possible.

 

[Declyn]

Is there any step by step guide on how to achieve Revoking THAT early?

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

Is there any step by step guide on how to achieve Revoking THAT early?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-guy-on-reddit-revoked-the-Privilegia-in-1478

 

[Outrider]

And also I'm planning on giving lots of land to my vassals but I have to make sure there is a land connection correct otherwise they won't be able to core it right?

A land connection or a sea connection (within coring range). Even though the creation of vassals is limited to Europe, you can give them land outside of it so long as they have the coring range. It'd be fairly feasible to massively feed any European vassal with a port large swathes of Africa or Asia.

Since you have Europe effectively won, I'd consider for future ideas:
1) Exploration - colonize the Americas entirely yourself, CB on pagans
2) Expansion - More colonies, CB on Asia
3) Influence - Less AE, diplovassal on non-HRE vassals.
4) Administrative - Coring, diplovassal (policy with influence)

You really don't need military boosts anymore, so just try gobbling up as much territory as you can, numbers will win from here on out.

 

[bbqftw]

With privilege revoked you can declare war on everyone in Europe and probably win.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

With privilege revoked you can declare war on everyone in Europe and probably win.

Uh, I'm not so sure...I DOW'ed France, and they, with 60k troops and a doom general, made siegeing them nontrivial; I had to actually use my troops and build new ones to win the war...though maybe I should have set my vassals' strategy to Supportive instead of Aggressive to begin with...

 

[bbqftw]

yes, you have to siege things yourself, however what should happen is a France stack engages your vassals, and your vassals will immediate swarm so what starts as a 20 v 20 becomes a 60 v 20, even if your vassals take horrific losses, France's early manpower recovery is not such that they can counteract the constant grind of vassal armies.

 

[calvinhobbeslik]

yes, you have to siege things yourself, however what should happen is a France stack engages your vassals, and your vassals will immediate swarm so what starts as a 20 v 20 becomes a 60 v 20, even if your vassals take horrific losses, France's early manpower recovery is not such that they can counteract the constant grind of vassal armies.

That's true, I guess I just wanted to say that battling France was not completely trivial.

 

[Ceranai]

Is there any step by step guide on how to achieve Revoking THAT early?

Step one- fabricate on bavaria, ally a few hre princes and a few powerful allies.
Step two- declare war on bavaria and allies as cobeligerants, win war
Step three-transer occupation to hre allies (only 6 bt or lower) and peace out. If possible start with electors first and give the land to allies, if elector annexed make a new opm elector for more IA
Step three repeat process on switzerland
Step four- save up provinces to revoke after no wars reform, you need at lease ten


If you didntsave up enough look for nations outside the hre allied with in to declare wars

Side note: giving the provinces to a vassal like silesia seems to mitigate AE. Also if a big coalition forms abandon you ally and declare the coalition on them for free provinces to revoke. For this reason no royal marriages (except hungary if you can manage that)

Ive done it twice now before 1470, passing the last reform and not passing it (hint not passing it saves hours of micromanaging later at the cost of the ai being a bit retarded occasionally).

As long as you rember to save up provinces to revoke for the last few reforms its easily done in 20 or so years. Mine took four wars and a vassal revoke. Also dont bother with burgandy till you have your vassal swarm, saves you loads of manpower and time that way

 

[Rinsukaze]

Woa, I've been trying to achieve that, but so far I've been pretty unlucky (called to war against Poland and France, twice on the latter).

I read that if you add to this process the "reclaim provinces" to your allies you gain more IA, but as said I'm still getting used to it

 

[ParadogsGamer]

Woa, I've been trying to achieve that, but so far I've been pretty unlucky (called to war against Poland and France, twice on the latter).

I read that if you add to this process the "reclaim provinces" to your allies you gain more IA, but as said I'm still getting used to it

I have a 10 episode playlist you can watch if you want to see it done. Just click the "A Kaiser not just in name" link

 

[Rinsukaze]

I have a 10 episode playlist you can watch if you want to see it done. Just click the "A Kaiser not just in name" link

Yep, that's where I took the process from. A pretty impressive channel you have there, and well explained, which is even more important. My most sincere gratitude, sire

I got a pretty bad starts, but I used them to get the hint of it. It's a simple strategy, but I think that a certain alliance/war pattern is needed in order to get it running more easily (as Mainz being allied with Bavaria, or getting an OPM on the same war to get a good "combo").

 

[ParadogsGamer]

Yep, that's where I took the process from. A pretty impressive channel you have there, and well explained, which is even more important. My most sincere gratitude, sire

I got a pretty bad starts, but I used them to get the hint of it. It's a simple strategy, but I think that a certain alliance/war pattern is needed in order to get it running more easily (as Mainz being allied with Bavaria, or getting an OPM on the same war to get a good "combo").

Yes but the HRE is very complex and most playthroughs will be different. So there is no golden path to take.
And thank you
Credits go to Wingfoot6 of course.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Someone did an Achievement WC in 1654, so a one tag WC is probably possible.

Possible? If we're talking settling for greyskin, it wouldn't even be hard since you could force nations like Crimea, GH, and Ottomans to be Christian HRE vassals and then use overseas expansion, horde, or even just imperialism CB to feed them provinces that they'd core at -50% and -63% respectively. With the rest of Europe as vassals already, they'd not be able to win independence, and then you pass the final reform and BOOM, entire world is an ugly, sickly grey. With transfer occupation to -core vassals in the HRE I don't think even the Ottomans can match Austria for a 1-tag in patch 1.8.1 if you have AoW.

 

[Prom_STar]

Start a new game that will actually be challenging?