Pretty sure that's TS's vassal.I love these kind of pictures with random nations growing largeAlso Finland seems to have taken 2-3 provinces from Sweden, I think that is the first time I ever seen them do anything
Oirats just vassalized Muscovy
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Could be it, I'll definitely check their LA later.
Yeah that's my vassalI love these kind of pictures with random nations growing large
The Oirats aren't that random, with the way Mongolia is set the Oirats are pretty much the most powerful faction in the area baring Ming.
Oirats do it in every 1.8 game i had. They even vassalized all of the Ming they didn't capture yet and nearly killed off the Timurids who were reformed and were the foremost power in the area. If Oirats will be able to reform, we yet may be able to see an unstoppably huge empire in the AI's hands!
Oriat get a great leader at start which they likely used to get that powerful.
Tasty low WS Ming provinces not something a hungry hord would say no to.
Tasty low WS Ming provinces not something a hungry hord would say no to.
I think the point that can be drawn here is not "Oirat OP plz nerf" but "Muscovy really needs some sort of buff, because both AI and player Poland trash it with embarrassing consistency and the only way it can ever become a world power is with ridiculous, ahistorical blobbing into Asia"
Muscovy can do well to, it just depends on alot of factors that spawn two continents.
not really.
I've seen a 2pm Muscovy come back and beat down everyone around them then form Russia.
Oh let's not draw conclusions about game balance from anecdotal evidence.
I've seen Oirats blob before in Central and East Asia, jusr never across the Urals. Shared it because I thought it was really cool to see
I've seen Oirats blob before in Central and East Asia, jusr never across the Urals. Shared it because I thought it was really cool to see
I found out how strong they are playing as Yeren (manchu). It doesn't help that almost all there lands are desert and hordes love there deserts.
Another problem is manchu just blows. I diplo annexed my last two vassals to form manch and I went from an 18 force limit to a 12. I gained land, yet I didn't go above 12? Not to mention the fact that I couldn't even afford to keep an army above 12. So much for the horde force limit bonus.
Another problem is manchu just blows. I diplo annexed my last two vassals to form manch and I went from an 18 force limit to a 12. I gained land, yet I didn't go above 12? Not to mention the fact that I couldn't even afford to keep an army above 12. So much for the horde force limit bonus.
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Well in Eu3 I succeded in reviving the mongol khanat to an even greater size then it had ever been dominating Europe and Asia completely in like less then 100 years from start.
In Eu4 I think doing such massive conquest in such short time is much harder because of rebels and overextension.
In Eu4 I think doing such massive conquest in such short time is much harder because of rebels and overextension.