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See page 1, download both parts AND don't play the savegames... they are corrupted
There is a big job needed to be done...
.... the Divisions/Brigades stats are all wrong.. any volunteer?
...probably better if just ONE guy does it all.
No problem, and I didn't change the stats at all, only fixed the model numbers in the scenario OOB (they were model = 0 which for some is invalid). The stats are all from the original. And one more thing to remember about MDS is that it has a difference between divisions and brigades. EX. You can build both Armor divisions (Arm) and Armor Bdes (code-wise L ARM). The reason things like Paras are low is that they are brigade sized. That said the values probably need to be tweaked/overhauled.
EDIT: Another example would be going to the production screen as the US and looking at the two Marines available. One is a Marine Bde (Mar-13) with the 8/9 stats and the other is a Marine Division (Mar-18) which is roughly 3x as expensive with slightly more than 3x the stats.
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I will fix the units, what needs fixing? Is it there attack values or their manpower, IC requirement? Just tell me and I will fix it.
@von Sachsen.. am I understanding that you are going to do the whole job or just the USA?
@vincesportsman2.... I see you also want to do the units.. but all of them?
Can you guys decide among yourselves, as to what you want to do?
One could do the motorised units (tanks, bmps.. anything that moves) and the other could do anything that walks usually (paras, marines, speciality etc)
The main thing is to have a reasonable starting point, a steady progression through the different units, to the last, top unit, which should still not be superman!
Remember, technology changes, but humans still have the same frailties as they did in 1750. ...
but GREAT if this job can be done, once and for all..
Please let me know, thanks
EDITING with more details:
THE JOB IS THIS:
In the db/units folder, there are 2 other folders, brigades and divisions.
Select divisions/infantry...
# 1965 Cold War Mechanized Division... is number 1
# 2015 Mechanized Division - 5.. is the last one on the list
In-between there are a number of other progressions through the years.
.. the stats should also improve with each model, but still be believeable and acceptable.
.. So you start with the first unit, progressively upgrade the stats to the last unit.. get rid of any ZERO's.
Finish that unit, and then proceed to the next.
BUT KEEP A BALANCE overall and throughout all the various units so that they are a cohesive body.
.. Most of this should be already done?
but that is the job AND A VERY IMPORTANT JOB ..
EDIT 2: A smart way to do it from scratch, would be to do it all in Excel or OpenOffice spreadsheet.
That way you can easily progress through the stats, and have them all visible at the one time.
.. AND . change the name for the next unit, and just adjust the stats as required.
Would take a day to do the lot, but you'd probably be FAMOUS afterwards...
@vincesportsman2.... I see you also want to do the units.. but all of them?
Can you guys decide among yourselves, as to what you want to do?
One could do the motorised units (tanks, bmps.. anything that moves) and the other could do anything that walks usually (paras, marines, speciality etc)
The main thing is to have a reasonable starting point, a steady progression through the different units, to the last, top unit, which should still not be superman!
Remember, technology changes, but humans still have the same frailties as they did in 1750. ...
but GREAT if this job can be done, once and for all..
Please let me know, thanks
EDITING with more details:
THE JOB IS THIS:
In the db/units folder, there are 2 other folders, brigades and divisions.
Select divisions/infantry...
# 1965 Cold War Mechanized Division... is number 1
# 2015 Mechanized Division - 5.. is the last one on the list
In-between there are a number of other progressions through the years.
.. the stats should also improve with each model, but still be believeable and acceptable.
.. So you start with the first unit, progressively upgrade the stats to the last unit.. get rid of any ZERO's.
Finish that unit, and then proceed to the next.
BUT KEEP A BALANCE overall and throughout all the various units so that they are a cohesive body.
.. Most of this should be already done?
but that is the job AND A VERY IMPORTANT JOB ..
EDIT 2: A smart way to do it from scratch, would be to do it all in Excel or OpenOffice spreadsheet.
That way you can easily progress through the stats, and have them all visible at the one time.
.. AND . change the name for the next unit, and just adjust the stats as required.
Would take a day to do the lot, but you'd probably be FAMOUS afterwards...
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I'm done with the units, all I did was correct the starting OOB to get rid of the US's NOMODEL units. I never touched the model stats. Now I am changing the dates of techs.
I'm VERY HAPPY to give you the job vincesportsman, if you want to liase with von Sachsen, he will be able to advise and help you with this.
Can I suggest you do the (paras, marines, speciality.. walking troops) first...
..... post it here and let us all have a look see (get overall approval from the guys...), maybe with suggestions for improvements?
... it will give you a FEEL for the job, and you'll be taking it one step at a time.
.. Once you have divisions done, then do the Brigades.. OR do them both at the same time?
.. Then after, when you are comfortable, do all the rest of the work?
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EDIT: YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TO match the Model pics.. so infantry 14 = model 14 for infantry .. etc etc.
... infantry 15 = dummy
.. infantry 16 = model 16 for infantry.. if you get my meaning.. BUT THEY HAVE TO MATCH
It should be just a case of checking that they match. This should all be done already, but there are holes as we all know...
Does that sound like a plan?
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Sounds good to me, my only concern is the change in combat mechanics coming in 1.3 as it will change the meaning of different stats. Also someone should then start changing things like land doctrines (whether it is me or someone else).
EDIT: As a heads-up I just noticed that no units can attach AA brigades.
EDIT: As a heads-up I just noticed that no units can attach AA brigades.
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Fix for not being able to invade Kuwait as USA:
Go to Mods/MDSDH/scenarios/2003/kuwait.inc file.......
... put a # in front of control = USA
Go to Mods/MDSDH/scenarios/2003/usa.inc file.......
...line 48, change 1588 to 1041...
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The bit I forgot to say was this:
.. In the MDS2.eug file, in the scenario folder, you have to add Kuwait to the war, like this: (add U91) and save it.
USA can now attack Iraq:
Go to Mods/MDSDH/scenarios/2003/kuwait.inc file.......
... put a # in front of control = USA
Go to Mods/MDSDH/scenarios/2003/usa.inc file.......
...line 48, change 1588 to 1041...
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The bit I forgot to say was this:
.. In the MDS2.eug file, in the scenario folder, you have to add Kuwait to the war, like this: (add U91) and save it.
USA can now attack Iraq:
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Also, I spoke too soon on the US being the only one with model problems. Japan's 7th Armored Division, 1st Airborne Brigade and 22nd Ground Strike Squadron are NOMODELs or Dummy's.
And all of Russia's Armored Div's, Spetznaz, and Str, and the AirCav are wrong model. And Ukraine's armor and AirCav.
And all of Russia's Armored Div's, Spetznaz, and Str, and the AirCav are wrong model. And Ukraine's armor and AirCav.
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Yeah, you are doing GREAT WORK there von Sachsen. Can you please liaise with vincesportsman2, as you seem to be a guy with an "eye for detail" THANKS
EDIT: And as you said: Keep an eye out for DH 1.03 additions.. maybe put in the 1.03 stuff at 0 for now, and you can just update it later?
Do you still need tech and event pictures?
Also I found out that to invade Iraq the US needs to be allied with Kuwait for some reason.
Also I found out that to invade Iraq the US needs to be allied with Kuwait for some reason.
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YES! The tech list is a few pages back, and the event pics are in the game...
If you go to the gfx/eventpics folder.. they are all the one's that look exactly the same, but are named properly.. if you can do some that would be GREAT!
Ya if you could send me your file you've been working on von Sanchsen that would be great.
I'm a little confused, are you doing the OOB's (which I did fix the US one and noted problems with others) or overhauling the stats for the unit types (which I have done nothing other than look at them)?
I finished the tech dates, everything should be as it should be in that. So no techs being from 1000 AD any more.
I don't mean to sound like a whiner or anything, but I went to download the mod but was alerted there was a Trojan on what is it Mediafire I think? So I don't know if that was just me for some reason or what. Just thought I'd say so, again I don't mean to sound accusatory or anything thanks.
I use Norton here on this pc. I upload and download from Mediafire every day, and I've never had a problem. My pc is scanned every week.
I'll go to Mediafire now and see what the story is...
Good news is that 250 people have downloaded this mod in just a few days. My Norton didn't find any problem with the download. ??
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vincesportsman2 and von Sachen: I wouldn't worry about OOB's, just please carry on with the Division/Brigade files as planned.
It is probably THE most important job to get done right now... Cheers
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