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To: The Honorable Attorney General

From: Dr. Yuri Voshkod, in his role as a member of the Governmental Commission on Military Reform

Mr. Attorney General:

As you may be aware, President Talbott created, and President Glasser has maintained, a Governmental Commission on Military Reform. Among the goals of this Commision are:

1) Define the purpose and mission of Eutopia's Armed Forces.

2) Refine the plan for the modernization of Eutopian military equipment outlined by the MRC to fit with current international political situations and budgetary constraints.

The membership of this Commission includes one active duty member of the military, Commander Tulp of the Navy. Captain Martinez of the Army was also on the Commission as a serving officer, but he has since resigned his military commission.

It is my belief that a serving military officer cannot properly be a member of this Commission. The Commission will be making recommendations to the President on the future of the Eutopian military. The President, acting on those recommendations, may make decisions that will directly impact the current employment and salary, and future promotion potential, of active duty military officers. Therefore, active duty military officers on the Commission are faced with an apparent conflict of interest: They cannot make recommendations that might reduce military strength, as such recommendations may imperil their own careers. Further, they cannot place an unbiased vote on such a recommendation, for such a vote could imperil their future promotion potential, if their superior officers are displeased by such a vote.

I therefore request the following orders be issued from this office:

1) That President Glasser remove all active duty military officers from the Commission, so that these officers do not face this conflict of interest.

2) That President Glasser order the striking from the records of the Commission all comments, votes and suggestions from such officers, as those comments, votes, and suggestions may have been tainted by this conflict of interest.

Please let me know if you need any further information on this issue. I await your response.

/s/Dr. Yuri Voshkod, member, Governmental Commission on Military Reform
 

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I would like to have the possibility to defend myself and point out faults in Dr. Voshkods statement.
 

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For the record, Mr. Attorney General and Commander Tulp, I am not alleging any improper action on the part of the Commander, nor am I arguing he has an actual conflict of interest. My issue is with the apparent conflict of interest that exists. For example, no matter how unbaised I may be, I should not sit on a panel regarding government regulation of personal security firms, for the perception would exist that I was conflicted.

I do welcome Commander Tulp's input on this matter, but I hope he does not feel a need to defend himself, for I have made no attack on him.
 

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Messrs. O'Floinn and Voshkod,

The GCMR was created by myself when I was President of the Republic. Constitutionally, I had the right to create such Governmental Commissions on my authority alone. As Temporary Chair, I invited Cmdr. Tulp to serve on the Commission, he remained when I was confirmed Permanent Chair by now-President Glasser. As Chair (and, for that matter, having been creator of the Commission in the first place), I can set the agenda, the objectives, and invite whomever I wish to serve on the Commission (although, of course, as this is a Governmental Commission, the President may overrule my decisions if he so wishes). A Governmental Commission is a purely advisory body--and one that advises to the President only, not the National Assembly. It has no power beyond that of advisement, and its members are not paid. Thus, the extension of any conflict of interest rules or regulations seems extremely tenuous at best; I am no legal expert, but I do not think that there are any laws beyond the Constitution that regulate Commisssions, Governmental, or otherwise.
Even if such rules do apply, a claim conflict of interest on Cmdr. Tulp's part here has little grounding in the law or in fact. A Commission on Military Reform cannot carry out its work without people who know about the military: ie, those in the military--civilians alone cannot assess the situation accurately. Of course there will be bias; but bias, as I am sure the former President knows, is a part of every Commission's activity. Let us take a commission not related to military matters--say, the one on the Workers' Bill of Rights. Those on the left (Josephus, et al.) are going to be biased towards one particular viewpoint, while those on the right (Dan Hartwell, et al.) towards the other. Commissions in Eutopia are by their very nature political, and have always been. By having a balance of viewpoints from all parties, cogent conclusions can usually be formulated--this is the point of commissions, and this is being done in the GCMR, with a balance of those ardently for a strong and powerful military (such as the Commander), and those more skeptical (many of the civilians on the commission).
If Commander Tulp has a conflict of interest by being in the military, then so does the Mayor of Buen Puerto, who has an interest, perhaps, in seeing military spending ocurring in his major port city...and for that matter, I do, because my parents live in St. Brendanstown and would rather not have a naval base on their front yard. It is because of these 'interests' that many of these people are on this commission, not despite them--both the Mayor and the Commander (and myself) will be affected, and would like to have an input in an open forum discussing these important issues.
In addition, there are many precedents for military persons serving on Commissions; Gen. Hartwell served on the original Military Reform Commission, set up by the National Assembly--there was no objection. He even served as Minister of Defence and International Affairs (which, if it was a conflict of interest, was certainly much more of one than what Dr. Voshkod is alleging here)--again, to no objection.

--Prof. P.G. Talbott, Chair of the Governmental Commission on Military Reform

P.S. Well, I meant to give a brief statement (essentially what was contained in the first paragraph about my own role), but got carried away. My apologies to Commander Tulp for usurping his own defense.
 

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Mr. President, Mr. Attorney General, Commander Tulp:

The issue of whether the active duty officers were paid for their service on the Commission is not a relevant one. If I may quote from American civil service standards:

Employees shall endeavor to avoid any actions creating the appearance that they are violating the law or the ethical standards set forth in this part. Whether particular circumstances create an appearance that the law or these standards have been violated shall be determined from the perspective of a reasonable person with knowledge of the relevant facts.

The question then is whether a reasonable person with full knowledge of these facts might conclude that an active duty officer might have a conflict of interest and be unable to supply unbaised advice.

The President notes that military officers are required to advice on military situations. Of this, there is no doubt; however, retired officers would face no such conflict situation. Mr. Martinez, a former military officer, would no longer pose a conflict of issue situation.

Finally, the President notes that the Mayor of Buen Puerto, or his own parents, might be unable to serve on such a panel. This argument is incorrect; the conflict of interest standards apply only to Federal government employees such as myself, when I was ENDTech Director, or Commander Tulp.

The Attorney General is well situation to act as "reasonable person with full knowledge of the facts." If it seems I am advocating for a position, I am not, and I am sorry for that misapprehension. I merely want to ensure that the Commission cannot be challenged later because of potentially tainted advice from some of its members.

I am gladdened, however, that the former President has found the time to address this issue at length in this forum.
 

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[OOC: I had a nice post written but then there was a busy server so please wait till to night for the reply :)]