offer alliance - impossible?

[unmerged(141552)]

I got the indication that I can invite Japan,Italy and Hungary to my Faction(axis) but at the 'offer alliance screen' It say 'impossible'

any ideas why that happening?

 

[comsubpac]

version?

 

[unmerged(141552)]

Now that you mentioned it, I think I am playing a modded version and this behavior only started after I suggested alliance to Itally and was rejected.
NM, I'll just edit the savegame.

 

[unmerged(178798)]

ur doing it wrong. you have the ability to invite them to your faction
look through the list of diplomatic actions until you see "invite to faction" press it, press ok and they should say yes and auto-ally with you

 

[-Toni82-]

But is still a good question.
If I play as Germany and it is possible to invite them to faction - why I cant offer an alliance to these countries?
For example Romania. I wouldnt say they were an axis member, cause in 1944 they broke the alliance and went on SOV side or alliance with.

And also with non faction countries it isnt possible to make some offers for alliance, also if you have same threats and you are a neighboor. The AI is doing well as I can see, just as player there are very rare possibilities and if, mostly no chances.

 

[comsubpac]

But is still a good question.
If I play as Germany and it is possible to invite them to faction - why I cant offer an alliance to these countries?
For example Romania. I wouldnt say they were an axis member, cause in 1944 they broke the alliance and went on SOV side or alliance with.

And also with non faction countries it isnt possible to make some offers for alliance, also if you have same threats and you are a neighboor. The AI is doing well as I can see, just as player there are very rare possibilities and if, mostly no chances.

in 2.04d is a alliance bug causing the AI to sign impossible alliances among other things. get 2.04e.

the question which country belonged to the axis is hard to answer historically but ingame it is modeled that way.

 

[-Toni82-]

Ah thanks, didnt knew that 2.04e is out. I will try it and hope its better.

And with the questions who belongs to what - now Romania will get also a modded event/decision for that

 

[comsubpac]

Ah thanks, didnt knew that 2.04e is out. I will try it and hope its better.

And with the questions who belongs to what - now Romania will get also a modded event/decision for that

while we are at it. romania did sign the tripartite pact and was part of the axis as much as one can be part of it.

 

[podcat]

might be an old bug or the mod, but generally the ai isnt so interested in alliances if joining their faction is an option instead.

 

[unmerged(141552)]

ur doing it wrong. you have the ability to invite them to your faction
look through the list of diplomatic actions until you see "invite to faction" press it, press ok and they should say yes and auto-ally with you

That what I was doing. After you press the "invite to faction" button, there is an indication on the likelihood of that action to succeed (so that you dont waste 5 diplo points on pointless endeavors) and problem is, that no matter what the situation, it is always set to "impossible"...

in 2.04d is a alliance bug causing the AI to sign impossible alliances among other things. get 2.04e.

I'll check the mod forum again, but I think that so far it only supports 2.04d... but i'll just use some save/load and try to offer them anyway (maximum edit it), thanks.

 

[comsubpac]

That what I was doing. After you press the "invite to faction" button, there is an indication on the likelihood of that action to succeed (so that you dont waste 5 diplo points on pointless endeavors) and problem is, that no matter what the situation, it is always set to "impossible"...


I'll check the mod forum again, but I think that so far it only supports 2.04d... but i'll just use some save/load and try to offer them anyway (maximum edit it), thanks.

you should register your game anyway.

 

[unmerged(141552)]

??

 

[comsubpac]

??

to get access to the full forum (tech support among other things) it is necessary to register hoi3 to show that you actually bought the game.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?419124-Why-amp-How-to-register-HOI3

 

[unmerged(141552)]

ahh this again... considering that registering wont fix the supposed "2.04d alliance bug" nor will it make the mod that I am using to magically support "2.04e" and in general it will not offer me anything past what I needed in past few years than this really irrelevant to me.

 

[jju_57]

People tend to help a little more if they are sure you are playing a non-pirated game.

 

[comsubpac]

ahh this again... considering that registering wont fix the supposed "2.04d alliance bug" nor will it make the mod that I am using to magically support "2.04e" and in general it will not offer me anything past what I needed in past few years than this really irrelevant to me.

actually registering will fix the bug since you can get 2.04e then. if you have bought the game you can register it. if not...

 

[tambov_wolf]

might be an old bug or the mod, but generally the ai isnt so interested in alliances if joining their faction is an option instead.

I am playing SF 2.04e (I think) and this is exactly what I observe, I get "Possibility to invite to faction" diplomatic decision, but when I try to invite likelyhood says "Impossible".

 

[unmerged(141552)]

yes but

I'll check the mod forum again, but I think that so far it only supports 2.04d...

So at best the operation will be successful but the patient will die...

 

[jju_57]

Since the only real change from version d to e was fixing a couple of bugs the mod should support it. You never mentioned the mod but I know the ones I use all work with 2.04e.