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Considering the light carriers are slower than fleet carriers (they're really more like armoured carriers), a high speed fleet is out of the question, and combining Heavy Cruisers with fleet carriers is a bad idea as the screens in such a fleet will stay out of the fire distance to protect the CV's and the CA's will be on their own in the enemy line of fire. This does not happen with CVL's. The next update will not be the GPW report, but one detailing the new and revised plans for the Red Navy, including a brief overview of the Kirov-class and the Kharkov-class. The main difficulty for the Red Navy is that it is called upon to do a lot of things with very limited resources and ships which are obsolescent at best. This recent increase in investment was long over due, and is insufficient to meet it's long term goals, but it's a step in the right direction. More on that in the next update, which will likely be posted next weekend.
Well well well, if it isn't my long absence from HoI3 making a comeback. In my defense, it looks like I wrote that comment at... 03:10 am. Yeah, checks out. Time zones are a capitalist invention.

I think my sleep-deprived brain was trying to somehow express confusion over the selection of escort carriers as opposed to full fleet carriers, given that the practicals at least exist in some shape or form, and the difference in hitting power is notable (I think?). Of course, with the needs of the army, there are serious limits to what can be funded for the navy, and I do think the heavy cruisers are a rather sensible solution to the issue that is lack of hulls that are not, well, destroyers. The serious issue with the navy is of course the long lead times; if we anticipate a war with an overseas opponent in the next two to four years, we need to be building the ships for it now. Ah, the horrors of trying to plan several years in the future when it's hard to tell where the front will move in the next week. I don't envy the Navy strategic planners in the slightest.
 
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"Do not be intimidated by their numbers, or the violence of their assault. Once they reach the river, we will blow the krauts out of the water!" - MajGen Romanenko P.L. in Alytus (1) as the battle starts.
Given Soviet doctrine always was about superior numbers, this is not a good thing for Romanenko to be saying.

Gentlemen, I'm afraid that this is it. We have given it our all, but after three days, with just my own headquarters division to defend it, the pressure on Zelva has become unbearable. The enemy has broken our lines, and our spirit. We must withdraw now, but we will return LtGen. Krasnopevtsev explaining his decision to withdraw his XXX MSK from Zelva (2).
The Commissar nodded in understanding. Then shot Krasnopevtsev for cowardice and failing to fight to his last breath for the Motherland.

The Slovak Air Force made another appearance on the 11th, the 95 A-304's of 1 BombPluk were intercepted over Konczyce by II IAK before they could do any damage on the ground.
Hurrah! The Slovaks have forced the Red Air Force to waste valuable bullets in shooting down so many A-304s. In all honestly that is all anyone can ask of either the Slovaks or indeed the A-304, so this mission counts as a success by Bratislavan standards.

218 Axis convoys were sunk, for 88 Allied ones.
This remains the most baffling part of the War of the Atlantic. Where the hell are all those Axis Convoys coming from and how much IC is Germany wasting on building them.
 
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Well well well, if it isn't my long absence from HoI3 making a comeback. In my defense, it looks like I wrote that comment at... 03:10 am. Yeah, checks out. Time zones are a capitalist invention.
3:10am in Finland. That's 4:10 Moscow time, or the time a good Socialist worker gets up to go work in the factory. There is only one time in the Soviet Union, and that's Moscow Time, time zones are indeed a capitalist invention.

I think my sleep-deprived brain was trying to somehow express confusion over the selection of escort carriers as opposed to full fleet carriers, given that the practicals at least exist in some shape or form, and the difference in hitting power is notable (I think?). Of course, with the needs of the army, there are serious limits to what can be funded for the navy, and I do think the heavy cruisers are a rather sensible solution to the issue that is lack of hulls that are not, well, destroyers. The serious issue with the navy is of course the long lead times; if we anticipate a war with an overseas opponent in the next two to four years, we need to be building the ships for it now. Ah, the horrors of trying to plan several years in the future when it's hard to tell where the front will move in the next week. I don't envy the Navy strategic planners in the slightest.
CVL's have only half the hitting power of a CV, so the confusion is somewhat warranted. However, CVL's are cheaper to build, and their behaviour in battle is quite different. Simply put CVL's function to add some air power to SAG's, when a fleet with a CVL goes into battle, it will behave as a regular surface action group, and all ships except the CVL will close to the firing line. The CAG of the CVL will defend the fleet from enemy CAG's and will periodically perform naval strikes on the enemy fleet.
CV's being faster, and having double the hitting power of a CVL, they function as the most important ship in a fleet. Any fleet with a CV becomes a CTF, meaning that only the non-CV capital ships will move into the firing line, while the escort ships (DD/CL) will stay back to protect the CV(s) and not engage. This leads to those capital ships being focused down by the enemy fleet, while your own CAG's do more uniform damage to the enemy. The result tends to be that you do more total damage to an enemy fleet with no carriers, but the enemy fleet is more likely to take out one or several of your capital ships, while leaving the escorts and CV's undamaged, CA's are especially vulnerable in these kinds of battles. As stated above, I'll explain the precise long term plan for the Red Navy, devised with this in mind, in the next update.

Given Soviet doctrine always was about superior numbers, this is not a good thing for Romanenko to be saying.
To be fair, the Germans had local numerical superiority for most of the battles in 1941. This was because significant Soviet forces had to be brought up from the rear and other theatres before the Red Army could start to put it's overall numerical superiority to practical use.

The Commissar nodded in understanding. Then shot Krasnopevtsev for cowardice and failing to fight to his last breath for the Motherland.
I love that he nodded in understanding first. Commissars do have empathy after all.

Hurrah! The Slovaks have forced the Red Air Force to waste valuable bullets in shooting down so many A-304s. In all honestly that is all anyone can ask of either the Slovaks or indeed the A-304, so this mission counts as a success by Bratislavan standards.
I'm not sure if this is better or worse than shooting at Hungarian CR.32's or Bulgarian He-51's. In any case the Slovak contribution to the war continues to be very Slovak. Infinitesimal in the grand scale of things.

This remains the most baffling part of the War of the Atlantic. Where the hell are all those Axis Convoys coming from and how much IC is Germany wasting on building them.
I think I'm going to have to stop including convoy figures, as I've determined the on-map figures to be ridiculously inaccurate when you look at them in a just-opened save-file, or when you tag to a different country. As I don't have access to the convoy messages of other nations, and those are slightly inaccurate themselves, the only reason to continue noting these ridiculous convoy numbers would be to make fun of them, and to waste my time adding up nonsensical numbers.
 
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Where are the Germans getting so many Convoys?
 
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27th of September 1942, 'Odin', 'Piat': The Soviet Navy's 5 year plan.
27th of September 1942, Sevastopol, 12,9°C, 2pm Moscow Time,

In the immediate aftermath of the naval battle of the Skagerrack yesterday (see next GPW update), 'Piat' invited myself, and retired Chief of the Navy Vladimir Orlov (traveling under a different name and rank) to Sevastopol to look at two newly laid down vessels, and to discuss the immediate future of the Red Navy's surface fleets. Up first was a reminder of our navy's current make-up:

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In it's current shape, the Red Navy has three fleets. Before the war, the former Pacific fleet was merged into the Baltic Fleet (Baltiyskiy Flot), under the assumption that the Carrier Fleet (Avianosets Flote) would be stationed in Vladivostok, which it was. Of course, as the Soviet Union was attacked, the need for a third fleet in the West meant that the Carriers were quickly rebased to Sevastopol, and then Mythiléné. The Black Sea Fleet (Cernomorsky Flot) was then free to go where it was most needed, often escorting troop transports and/or providing shore bombardment, as it is doing right now off the coast from Kristiansand.

The introduction of Aircraft Carriers has been a major succes, despite the relatively rudimentary nature of our Carriers. Our CAG's are world class, and they have proven a very versatile tool, performing Naval Strikes, Ground Attacks, Port Strikes, and of course, protecting our ships from enemy aeroplanes. Two distinct Carrier types have been developed. The armoured Moskva-Class is meant to stay close to the surface combattants, allowing it to have additional fighters over the fleet at very short notice. It's armour makes it ideal for operations in the Baltic and the Black Sea, where staying undetected is unlikely, and staying out of the range of land-based aeroplanes is impossible. The larger Kyiv-Class, on the other hand, was always meant for operations in the Pacific, it sacrifices some armour for a larger air wing, a higher cruising speed (20 knots), and a larger operating range.

Destroyer development has been focused entirely on increasing their speed and operating range with little regard for anything else. This choice was made out of necessity as a badly armed Destroyer that can keep up with the Capital ships on long missions is more versatile than a heavily armed ship that has less range than a Great War era Light Cruiser. The space that was saved by adding neither armour nor guns, has been used to fit our Destroyers with modern radar and sonar equipment. Soviet Destroyers have been clearly superseded in most, or all, areas by foreign designs from the UK, the USA, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, Sweden, Japan, Germany, and Italy. The Navy hopes that through diplomatic efforts, we may be able to procure licenses for Destroyers from one of these nations, most likely Sweden, as this would be cheaper than to actually develop our own ships to that level, at least in the medium term.

Thanks to the recent acquisition of additional Naval Bases, the potential operating area of the Red Navy has been increased significantly:
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All but our oldest Destroyers have the range to be deployed to the light red area, in practice, this means all our major fleets could do so if required. The dark red area shows the operating range of our Carrier Fleet (I Avianosets Flote). Of course, with refuelling in neutral ports, and a lighter load, our fleets can be transferred between the three naval theatres, but any combat operations beyond the indicated areas cannot be logistically supported for any amount of time.

The question of what our navy should look like to protect our interest in our newly gained waters and beyond has been the subject of much debate within the Navy, and even outside it. Proposals ranging from the construction of a 15-ship class of gigantic super heavy battleships, to the creation of 7 Carrier Fleets, and everything in between have been considered, briefly, before being tossed out for being overambitious, impractical, and impossible to achieve within the set timeframe of 5 years.

A more pragmatic approach was needed, and with some nudging from the secret committee, the following template was adopted:
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Three fleets centred around a Battleship, several large Cruisers, and one Escort Carrier. Their main missions are shore bombardement, the protection of troop transports, dealing with small enemy fleets, submarines hunting, and presence missions.
Two large Carrier Fleets built around three Carriers each, which are meant to deal with larger enemy threats by using offensive air power, be it at sea, or in port. While very powerful, these formations require large open spaces to keep the Carriers safe, and are thus ill suited for the Baltic or the Black Sea.
As long as Japan stays out of the war, the Pacific Fleet will operate in the west as the Atlantic Squadron, subordinate to the Black Sea Fleet or the Baltic Fleet, as required. Likewise, when no serious naval targets are available the Carrier Fleets can be used to provide air support to operations on land within their area of operation, which will likely be the Mediterranean.
Of course, the planned ships will be substituted for better types when they become available, whether through license purchase or through research.

After the 5 year plan, it was time to look at the new capital ships that have just been laid down:
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Both new classes share a powerplant, but with different gearing. The Kirov-class combines the hull design of the Krasnyi Kavkaz with french-inspired twin 203mm turrets, resulting in a ship with all of the firepower of the French Algérie-class (good) but the seakeeping of a supersized Svetlana-class (questionable).
The Kharkov class is a direct evolution of the Moskva-class (a near-copy of HMS Hermes), with a new powerplant, and an slightly longer hull, it's marginally faster, and has a longer autonomous range.
One ship of each class has been laid down. Following the loss of Krasnyi Kavkaz, a second Kirov-class Cruiser will likely be next, followed by more Sevastopol-class Destroyers, and a new class of three Fleet Carriers. The third Kyiv-class Carrier will be completed within the next few months.

Sea-lift capacity is also increasing as the navy will take delivery of it's fourth Transport Flotilla next month, with a fifth still in production. Landing Craft are being developed, but those designs won't be ready before next spring.

Submarine development has fallen by the wayside, as our pre-war subs have proven perfectly adequate for the navy's limited convoy raiding missions. Only once Destroyer, Carrier, and Cruiser designs have been brought up to near-parity with the larger naval powers, can we afford to start looking into submarines again. Unless, of course, we manage to purchase licenses or steal more technology.

The question of leadership was briefly discussed, but it proved a non-issue. The Red Navy has room to expand, with plenty of talented commanders improving on the job as submarine flotilla CO's, we have a large enough pool to field a navy three times it's size today, and that's not counting all the talent that will graduate from the Soviet Union's Naval Academies over the coming years. More problematic is the total lack of modern naval doctrine, which leaves our Admirals to improvise the way they utilise and organise their fleets, leading to wildly variable results. This hasn't led to disaster yet (unless you count the loss of one ancient Cruiser a disaster), but that is mostly thanks to the Royal Navy's sinking of most of the German and Italian Navies, before we even entered the war.

In conclusion, the Red Navy is in a tricky position. On the one hand, it has gained reliable access to the Mediterranean and the Atlantic, along with several large bases. On the other, the ongoing land war has all but stalled its theoretical and technological progress with the notable exception of electronics. This means that it barely has enough ships to perform it's missions in support of the land war, let alone face a world class navy, or patrol our new territorial waters with anything larger than torpedo boats or submarines. Despite all these limitations, the Red Navy has already proven itself a 'make do' Navy. They will make it work and fullfill their mission, without suitable doctrines, using ships that were designed for the previous war, cobbling together bits and pieces of foreign designs, and using every single vessel and aeroplane to it's fullest.

As I prepare to leave Sevastopol, I'm taken by a bittersweet feeling. The Red Navy has been giving it's all since the very first day of the war. While air crews have taken delivery of new state of the art planes, the Red Army has replaced every single bit of equipment and every single vehicle it owns at least once in the last two years, the rate of expansion and improvement of the navy has been comparatively pedestrian, yet, ever more is asked of them. This latest round of shipbuilding was long overdue, and quite insufficient in the grand scheme of things, but hopefully it is the first step towards a truly global Soviet Navy.

I hope this report has given you a clear picture of our Navy, and where it is headed,
Any comments on the Navy's 5 year plan are welcome,

'Odin'
 
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Very well put together with very nice graphics. Despite the limitations and the overarching primacy of the ground war, the building plans for the Navy are quite extensive for the Soviets, especially the developing carrier arm.

Mind you, one suspects even the fully realised carrier fleets would be hard pressed by the Japanese if they ever had to fight them, with the Allies being less likely to wipe them out as they do the Germans and Italians in the close confines of the western theatres, where the Axis fielded no fleet carriers.

It will be interesting to see if the ambitious building plans eventuate and how long it takes.
 
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The Soviets have at least correctly grasped the key fact of (HOI3) naval warfare -as you can base modern jet CAGs off ancient great war carriers any old heap of junk will do. An 'evolved' Hermes with more range and a tad more speed is a viable plan in this story in a way it would never be in reality.

The cruiser plan make sense from the same perspective, but I would not like to be the poor soul who had to tell Stalin he was not getting his big ship with massive guns. The Kirovs are much more what the Soviets need, but trying telling the boss that! :eek:
 
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Very well put together with very nice graphics. Despite the limitations and the overarching primacy of the ground war, the building plans for the Navy are quite extensive for the Soviets, especially the developing carrier arm.
Thanks to those stolen blueprints, and the relative synergy between CAG's and small land-based aeroplanes, Carriers are making more and more sense. Had we acquired the blueprints for the KGV's or the Richelieu's main armament instead, this might have been an entirely different story, and Naval Aviation would never have taken on such a large role even before the war. The Soviet Union would then have been struggling to put together a helicopter carrier post-war, just to plug the gap. (see the OTL Moskva-class). Maybe, even as far into the future as the 21st century, Soviet Carriers would be a joke. (See Adm. Kuznetsov). Having Carriers in WW2, even rudimentary ones is a huge deal, as it allows the Navy to find out what works (and mostly what doesn't) in actual combat situations. If you're designing a Carrier post-war, being able to call upon real wartime experience of Carrier operations is a massive advantage. Of course, in game Carriers just proved the most practical solution, considering the available resources and blueprints.

Mind you, one suspects even the fully realised carrier fleets would be hard pressed by the Japanese if they ever had to fight them, with the Allies being less likely to wipe them out as they do the Germans and Italians in the close confines of the western theatres, where the Axis fielded no fleet carriers.
Yes, even with 2 Carrier Fleets, the Red Navy would struggle against the IJN, but it's all we can realistically afford right now, and even that seems generous. The Royal Navy has been unable to really trounce the Japanese navy, trading small blows here and there, both sides losing the occasional Destroyer, Cruiser, or Submarine. The USN is seemingly AWOL, the only battles it has fought have been surrounding the USN's withdrawal from forward island bases that had been overrun by the SNLF.

A depressing but thorough read. Let's hope the carriers can prove themselves early and attract a bigger budget.
It will be interesting to see if the ambitious building plans eventuate and how long it takes.
That's a big question. It depends on a lot of factors whether there will be room to further expand the navy's budget, both for production and research. The quantity of Lend-Lease Aid, the liberation of researchers and Naval Designers, and the acute need for additional land forces and officers all play a role in one way or another. I do think everyone understands the need for a larger, more modern Red Navy, even if a couple of good performances by Naval Aviation may help cement the Carrier as the definitive capital ship of choice. The rub is that this medium-term necessity is superseded, mostly by the short-term needs of the land war. The better we do on land, the more we can spend on the Navy.

The Soviets have at least correctly grasped the key fact of (HOI3) naval warfare -as you can base modern jet CAGs off ancient great war carriers any old heap of junk will do. An 'evolved' Hermes with more range and a tad more speed is a viable plan in this story in a way it would never be in reality.
This is, indeed, a bit of an issue. I'd counter that the Americans operated pretty modern prop planes off very small carriers like the Independence-class. I'm thinking of blocking upgrades for my CAGs before they can get Jet Engines, because that's really when there is that massive leap forward in take off and landing distances. Then, the race will be on to develop a Carrier large enough for Jets. Of course, the Soviet Naval Yards don't know how to build a new Carrier Class from scratch (yet), so it's not a question of whether it's viable in the long term, it's the only type of armoured carrier they can build right now, to provide some air power to the Black Sea Fleet by next year. As for the Fleet Carriers, we'll need two CTF's if we want to stand a chance against the IJN. We can't afford to wait until the land war calms down a bit and attention can be directed towards designing larger Carriers to start building them. None of these ships are future-proof, and the Red Navy knows it, but they'd rather have these, than nothing.

The cruiser plan make sense from the same perspective, but I would not like to be the poor soul who had to tell Stalin he was not getting his big ship with massive guns. The Kirovs are much more what the Soviets need, but trying telling the boss that! :eek:
These ATL Kirov's are worse than the OTL ones in every respect except for their armament. In this ATL, Stalin is somewhat more reasonable, as in he actually has a few people he takes advice from (the secret committee) without constantly thinking they're out to get him. I also mentioned ex-Chief of the Navy Vladimir Orlov in the update as he served on board Cruisers and is portrayed in-game as a Cruiser proponent. Combine that with the fact that we had those blueprints for French twin 203mm turrets burning a hole in our back pocket, and it seems like a semi-reasonable 'real life' outcome. (if we assume that Stalin can be convinced of the utility of Cruisers & Carriers over Battleships)
 
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I read this on mobile, and so had to come back for those delicious, delicious graphics.... I won't lie, I'd really like a primer on how you got the silhouettes to come out, and where you sourced the material (Shipbucket won't let me download images anymore).

That said, do you want to dilute the powerful force that the battleships represent by making them the force flags for the various fleets?
 
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I read this on mobile, and so had to come back for those delicious, delicious graphics.... I won't lie, I'd really like a primer on how you got the silhouettes to come out, and where you sourced the material (Shipbucket won't let me download images anymore).
You can use almost any half-decent side view profile with a white background off the internet to create such silhouettes. In photoshop, or Gimp, or any image treatment software, select everything that's outside the ship and make it transparent, also remove everything below the waterline. Once that's done, trim the image to the limits of the ship and resize it to scale, then select all transparent areas, invert selection and fill the selected area with the chosen colour. To give it depth, I then copy the red silhouette, enlarge it by a few pixels left, right and up, and make the enlarged one black. Finally, place the red silhouette in front of the black one, and merge the two layers. Select a background colour that will contrast sufficiently with the black and the red. (or whichever colours you decide to use, for Axis ships I've been making black silhouettes over a white 'shadow')

I forgot about Shipbucket, I think the blueprints at the end would have been cleaner if I had used source material from there instead of mashing together random google images blueprints of moderate quality and similar graphical style. I'll try to remember to use that for the next new imaginary ship class I come up with.

That said, do you want to dilute the powerful force that the battleships represent by making them the force flags for the various fleets?
Our Battleships aren't much to write home about, they're leaking rustbuckets armed with a 12"/52 main armament that's unable to perforate the belt armour of any modern foreign Battleship at normal battle ranges. The Kirov-class can pump out 2/3 the shell weight (sea attack) of the Gangut-class BBs, so a BB, CAx3 fleet is roughly equivalent to a BBx3 fleet. Having all the Battleships in one fleet and a pair of cruiser fleets with 4-5 cruisers yields a similar concentration of firepower. (at least in-game) The main reason for spreading out the Battleships is shore bombardment, a BBx3 fleet maxes out the Shore bombardment value at 25 while a fleet of 5 CA's does 'only' 15 shore bombardment damage. With the proposed setup of BB, CAx3, each of these fleets will have a shore bombardment value of 20 (including the CL's shore bombardment of 1), so we can adequately support land (or landing) operations in three locations at the same time. The total maximum shore bombardment output is also higher as it isn't maxed out:
BBx3, CL = 25, CAx5, CL = 16, CAx5, CL = 16 : 57 shore bombardment with 3 BB's, 10 CA's, and 3 CL's.
In this scenario the Cruiser fleets have more Sea Attack than the Battleship fleet.
BB, CAx3, CL = 20 x3 : 60 shore bombardment with 3 BB's, 9 CA's, and 3 CL's.
If we add more cruisers, we get:
BBx3, CL = 25, CAx6, CL = 19, CAx6, CL = 19 : 63 shore bombardment with 3 BB's, 12 CA's, and 3 CL's.
BB, CAx4, CL = 23x3 : 69 shore bombardment with 3 BB's, 12 CA's, and 3 CL's.

If we further increase CA main armament, our CA's will match the Gangut-class BB's sea attack at level 7 (1946), while still costing less to build (even without considering practical knowledge). Basically, the only real advantages the Ganguts will have in a couple of years are shore bombardment and flag waving. They are far too old to form anything resembling a modern battle line and hope to survive against enemy Battleships, and replacing them would be expensive, so enemy Battleships are better avoided than engaged, better to let the Navy Air Fleet deal with them. Losing Cruisers is also less of a PR nightmare than losing a Battleship (especially the flagship), if we spread them out we'll lose them one at the time, in case we lose them at all, that is.
 
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I'm stuck between "not ambitious enough" and "too ambitious", so this probably hits the sweet spot pretty well. The tech disparity is pretty jarring,, but at least we're producing something. How fortunate we are that the Brits and their allies took care of the KM and RM for us, and that has allowed the Red Navy to score major victories even with how outdated its ships are.
 
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Unfortunately for the Navy, at its heart this is a land/air war for the SU. Not giving the Red Army and VVS priority on research and production would be disastrous.
 
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Yes, the Japanese Navy will be the major issue in the Pacific. Do we know anything about their level of technology when it comes to THEIR Battleships and Carriers?
 
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I'm stuck between "not ambitious enough" and "too ambitious", so this probably hits the sweet spot pretty well. The tech disparity is pretty jarring,, but at least we're producing something.
Ah, the elusive sweet spot. That place we aim for, but rarely truly hit. There is still some slack in the actual schedule of the plan, so maybe we can get it just right. The tech is dreadful, but we do have a massive industrial capacity, so if/when the production needs of the land and air wars go down, we'll be able to mass produce a whole lot of somethings by bringing all the old shipyards back into full scale action.

Unfortunately for the Navy, at its heart this is a land/air war for the SU. Not giving the Red Army and VVS priority on research and production would be disastrous.
Indeed, even losing the entire red navy is a better outcome than losing the land war, and losing the air war would have devastating consequences for the land war.

How fortunate we are that the Brits and their allies took care of the KM and RM for us, and that has allowed the Red Navy to score major victories even with how outdated its ships are.
If only the USN could pull it's weight and remove half of the IJN, we would be most obliged.

Yes, the Japanese Navy will be the major issue in the Pacific. Do we know anything about their level of technology when it comes to THEIR Battleships and Carriers?
We don't have much reliable info on this as Japanese Capital ship designs and construction schedule are shrouded in secrecy, and the ruthlessly efficient kempeitai has made direct espionage operations far too costly. However, the tech level of their Destroyers and Submarines suggest that their navy is high on their priority list. As none of their Carriers have been sunk, and from reports about naval losses, we know they have at least 6 Fleet Carriers, and at least 4 Light Carriers. While they have 4 old battleships that are little better than the Gangut-class, the two more recent ones, Nagato and Mutsu are significantly more powerful, and well armoured, and they also have 4 Kongo-class Battlecruisers. It's not clear whether more Battleships have been built, as no new BB's have yet been mentioned in French naval reports. There was some rumour about Japan building giant super-heavy Battleships, but there has been no confirmation of the truth of such a rumour. That said, the size of some of the newer Japanese Carriers seems to match the rumoured hull size of those SHBB's, so maybe the hulls were converted to CV's. In any case, Yamato conversions or not, their carriers are better than ours in every single way, and they probably have more of them than we're even planning to build. It's going to be very tough to beat them without the USN.
 
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We don't have much reliable info on this as Japanese Capital ship designs and construction schedule are shrouded in secrecy, and the ruthlessly efficient kempeitai has made direct espionage operations far too costly.

Having just read Eurasia's latest update, the phrase "ruthlessly efficient kempeitai" just sounds weird, despite it being a better reflection of the OTL Kempeitai.
 
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The catchup tour continues...

While I loathe to make such a direct comparison, I must note that El Pip's signature quote describes The Butterfly Effect as "An insane project of terrifying detail". While the nature of this AAR is quite different from the other work, I submit that this quote is equally applicable to this AAR, certainly in a fashion which should be taken as commendable.

OOC: Despite putting some measures in place to restrain the length of the battle reports, these last ten game-days have been so intense that this is the longest GPW update yet, not to mention the longer than usual narrative part at the top. Due to familial issues, and having to concentrate on my studies I wasn't able to complete it before today, despite the fact that more than half of it was ready before my academic year even started. The good news is that you now probably have more than a month to skim or read it before the next instalment is due.

It may be worth breaking the narratives out to be fully separate from the informational updates. This would probably make single updates easier to sit down and read in a sitting, and if you cared about such things increase the rate of updates as well. Certainly a 16,000-word monstrosity has a somewhat intimidating effect on the reader I would say.

I disapprove of any references to the star wars sequel trilogy.

Good man.

That's a bingo!

We just say 'bingo'...

I hope this report has given you a clear picture of our Navy, and where it is headed,
Any comments on the Navy's 5 year plan are welcome,

In a nutshell, this plan for the Red Navy reminds me of Force Z but on a national scale: too big to risk, but not enough to do the job.

The individual fleets are of reasonable composition, though I do question the value of the CVLs in the SAGs as a single CAG will not be very effective against a large CTF and will not have much firepower to help against an opposing SAG.

However, strategically I don't see where these fleets are going. Let's review: in five years (the proposed timeline here), Germany will be dead. Italy will be neutralized. Japan may be a credible threat, or they may have their navy reduced to hulks by the Americans. Our current opponents will therefore be no more (or, if they are, something has gone horribly wrong and no Red Navy will be enough to fix it), and our new rivals will be the Royal Navy and USN, who will likely be allied to one another as this is not the strange world of Talking Turkey. We really cannot hope to win a direct confrontation with either of these navies, thus it is frankly a waste of resources to build a navy with the design goal of doing so.

The question then is: what should the goal of our Navy be? I can see three principal roles:
  • Littoral support: this means covering and supporting amphibious operations, and potentially lending offshore fire support to Red Army operations. While conventionally "big gun" ships can be used to fill this role it is increasingly obvious that carrier aviation will eclipse the big guns in this role, if not in raw power than certainly in overall flexibility and utility via provision of reconnaissance, air cover, close air support, and of course being the superior combatant should another fleet oppose an amphibious landing. While I can see maintaining squadrons of cruisers to provide gunnery support in specialized circumstances, by and large I see little true need to expand our SAGs to fill this role.
  • Power projection: while we cannot hope to compete with the RN/USN, certainly we benefit from having a sufficient force to overmatch any minor powers whose interests come into conflict with our own. Here the range and flexibility of CVs, to say nothing of the ability to easily modernize our CAGs, is superior here, particularly since our WWI-vintage BBs are woefully inadequate in this capacity being simply too slow and too short-ranged to support our future global operations.
  • Asymmetric warfare: against the RN/USN, we cannot hope to win a direct confrontation but by deploying a strong submarine fleet globally we can certainly win an indirect conflict by threatening the sea lanes both powers rely on, reducing their economic and logistical capabilities enough to at least secure a favorable peace treaty.
As you might gather, my recommendation would be on one hand to invest in CVs and a substantial body of escorts, certainly destroyers but also cruisers of a lighter flavor than the current Kirovs; and on the other hand to re-invest in submarines as this is the one area which we can gain a credible advantage in, or at least a credible deterrent, against other great powers. While larger cruisers can have a place, it is not one requiring the massive investment proposed above as we simply cannot anticipate winning a full-blown surface naval war against our likely future rivals and thus investment in doing so is wasted.
 
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the phrase "ruthlessly efficient kempeitai" just sounds weird, despite it being a better reflection of the OTL Kempeitai.
It's funny just how badly @Eurasia 's Kempetai are doing, as my experience playing any nation other than Japan is that Japan's counter espionage tends to be rather strong, due to laws, neutrality, and probably AI Leadership investment.

While I loathe to make such a direct comparison, I must note that El Pip's signature quote describes The Butterfly Effect as "An insane project of terrifying detail". While the nature of this AAR is quite different from the other work, I submit that this quote is equally applicable to this AAR, certainly in a fashion which should be taken as commendable.
I'm deeply flattered by this beautiful compliment.

It may be worth breaking the narratives out to be fully separate from the informational updates. This would probably make single updates easier to sit down and read in a sitting, and if you cared about such things increase the rate of updates as well. Certainly a 16,000-word monstrosity has a somewhat intimidating effect on the reader I would say.
This has crossed my mind. I've been somewhat reluctant to do so because the narrative and the events at the front tend to be linked, though they have been less so lately. That said, the narrative could include some teasers for the information that is to come. As I struggle to find the time to complete the next GPW update, I'm seriously considering this. The frequency of updates is still going to remain relatively low as this semester is looking particularly busy. If everything goes according to plan I can graduate in September, but there is still lots to do to make that a reality.

We just say 'bingo'...
Bingoooo!

In a nutshell, this plan for the Red Navy reminds me of Force Z but on a national scale: too big to risk, but not enough to do the job.
That definitely sounds right. It is hoped that we may vastly expand our naval expenditure

The individual fleets are of reasonable composition, though I do question the value of the CVLs in the SAGs as a single CAG will not be very effective against a large CTF and will not have much firepower to help against an opposing SAG.
Basically, they provide close air protection for the SAG. As many Soviet Naval Bases are within striking distance of enemy land-based aeroplanes, having that single CAG will significantly reduce the damage a SAG takes when it is hit in coastal waters. Of course, Interceptors will be rushed to the scene, if they are in range, but if a SAG is moving from the Baltic to the Eastern Med, it's far beyond the range of the VVS, and that CAG is a life saver when faced with enemy naval strikes along the way. A secondary benefit is that the CAG's are quite helpful for sub-hunting, and they can provide some limited support through ground troops beyond the range of the CAG's guns. Of course, when faced with a true CTF in naval combat, it's going to be useless, but that's what our own CTF's are for. Considering the age and technological level of our SAG's, they should probably avoid naval combat alltogether. In any case, 2 CVL's already exist, and the third is under construction, so it's a bit too late to go back on the CVL part of the plan.

However, strategically I don't see where these fleets are going. Let's review: in five years (the proposed timeline here), Germany will be dead. Italy will be neutralized. Japan may be a credible threat, or they may have their navy reduced to hulks by the Americans. Our current opponents will therefore be no more (or, if they are, something has gone horribly wrong and no Red Navy will be enough to fix it), and our new rivals will be the Royal Navy and USN, who will likely be allied to one another as this is not the strange world of Talking Turkey. We really cannot hope to win a direct confrontation with either of these navies, thus it is frankly a waste of resources to build a navy with the design goal of doing so.
Littoral support: this means covering and supporting amphibious operations, and potentially lending offshore fire support to Red Army operations. While conventionally "big gun" ships can be used to fill this role it is increasingly obvious that carrier aviation will eclipse the big guns in this role, if not in raw power than certainly in overall flexibility and utility via provision of reconnaissance, air cover, close air support, and of course being the superior combatant should another fleet oppose an amphibious landing. While I can see maintaining squadrons of cruisers to provide gunnery support in specialized circumstances, by and large I see little true need to expand our SAGs to fill this role.
Littoral support is what we need the most right now. Having a SAG that can escort transports and provide shore bombardment in each of the three naval theatres is half of the proposed plan. In a way, this is the most urgent as the current surface fleet will soon be overstretched in this respect, being unable to provide shore bombardment in the Baltic and the Aegean at the same time (if we go through with the Balkan operation). Of course, this is also due to a lack of transports, but those are also in the pipeline, though they weren't mentioned in the naval review. As far as squadrons of cruisers are concerned, we have just three light cruisers right now, which is why we're building more cruisers.

Power projection: while we cannot hope to compete with the RN/USN, certainly we benefit from having a sufficient force to overmatch any minor powers whose interests come into conflict with our own. Here the range and flexibility of CVs, to say nothing of the ability to easily modernize our CAGs, is superior here, particularly since our WWI-vintage BBs are woefully inadequate in this capacity being simply too slow and too short-ranged to support our future global operations.
The vintage BBs fall short of the future needs of our navy in many ways. This is, of course, what our future CTF's are for.
To escort the transports and landing craft we need some long range cruiser squadrons so our CTF's can operate independently of the slow troop ships.

Asymmetric warfare: against the RN/USN, we cannot hope to win a direct confrontation but by deploying a strong submarine fleet globally we can certainly win an indirect conflict by threatening the sea lanes both powers rely on, reducing their economic and logistical capabilities enough to at least secure a favorable peace treaty.
Considering we have plenty of submarines, and any new submarines we build right now will not be any more competitive than what we have already, it doesn't seem particularly pressing to go down this road just yet. At current expenditure levels, it will take the design bureau's over a year to come up with a new submarine class which will then be equivalent to a 1939 German, British, or American model, and that's if we interrupt their work on landing craft right now.

As you might gather, my recommendation would be on one hand to invest in CVs and a substantial body of escorts, certainly destroyers but also cruisers of a lighter flavor than the current Kirovs; and on the other hand to re-invest in submarines as this is the one area which we can gain a credible advantage in, or at least a credible deterrent, against other great powers. While larger cruisers can have a place, it is not one requiring the massive investment proposed above as we simply cannot anticipate winning a full-blown surface naval war against our likely future rivals and thus investment in doing so is wasted.
In conclusion. 9 Heavy Cruisers may be a bit excessive, though I do think we need some, 3 at an absolute minimum, 6 would be better. Let's also not forget that the experience gained by our shipyards in the construction of the Kirov's will translate into quicker build and development times for potential lighter cruisers down the line. Once more, we have the problem of a chronically underfunded R&D department, which means our most recent Light Cruiser designs date back to the Great War. This is why the focus has been entirely on Destroyers as escorts for our fleets. As you rightly pointed out, a CTF far from home will likely benefit from a more balanced escort of both CL's and DD's rather than a massive swarm of Destroyers. The hope is that licenses may be obtained for the production of relatively modern DD's and CL's, from a friendly regional power, until we can develop our own.
The crux of the matter is that there are two kinds of investment here, the first is production, the second is R&D. Even at this stage of the war, we have quite some wiggle room where production is concerned. We can afford to build several large ships, and multiple flotillas of smaller ones, at the same time, and still keep up with the planned Army and Air Force expansion and reinforcement needs. R&D is another story. The Army needs hundreds of new officers every week to replace losses and take up roles in newly deployed units, and both the Army and the VVS need up to date equipment and decent doctrines to fight the enemy on land. All this means that the Navy is left with a single research team that can only do so much. Basically, whatever we build is going to be outdated before the keel has been laid, but we still need ships, so we build it anyway...

The question of which research should get priority once we manage to increase R&D is a whole different matter. If anything, your contribution to the naval debate has made me consider moving Submarines and Light Cruisers higher up the priority list.

Thanks for the feedback. Service will resume sometime this month.
 
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This has crossed my mind. I've been somewhat reluctant to do so because the narrative and the events at the front tend to be linked, though they have been less so lately. That said, the narrative could include some teasers for the information that is to come. As I struggle to find the time to complete the next GPW update, I'm seriously considering this. The frequency of updates is still going to remain relatively low as this semester is looking particularly busy. If everything goes according to plan I can graduate in September, but there is still lots to do to make that a reality.

I'd also note the benefit for the authAAR, in that you get to put out a "finished product" more frequently and drive more engagement amongst the readAARship, both of which are welcome to buoy morale for the monkeys at typewriters. ;)

In conclusion. 9 Heavy Cruisers may be a bit excessive, though I do think we need some, 3 at an absolute minimum, 6 would be better.

Even 9x CA is reasonable in the medium term, really the thrust of my thoughts is that they don't need to operate as parts of a full fleet. A focus on CTFs with 3x CV and more than double, maybe even triple that number of escorts (needed for various purposes!) means you can easily slot a 3x CA squadron into a CTF when offshore support is needed. This way the expense of building full SAGs is minimized, allowing more resources to go towards better ships while we finally retire the old BBs.

The question of which research should get priority once we manage to increase R&D is a whole different matter. If anything, your contribution to the naval debate has made me consider moving Submarines and Light Cruisers higher up the priority list.

In Stalin's USSR, this is all a minor naval thinker can hope for. :D

I'll note that while the value of DDs for ASW is well-known, CLs can serve well as AA platforms to support the CAGs in a scrap, certainly a useful role.
 
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I'm deeply flattered by this beautiful compliment.
As you should be, the insane project of terrifying detail is a path few dare to tread. Others will do insane projects (one thinks of @Wraith11B and his six computer monstrosity) but they recoil from the terrifying detail. You are to be commended on successfully doing both.
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I'd also note the benefit for the authAAR, in that you get to put out a "finished product" more frequently and drive more engagement amongst the readAARship, both of which are welcome to buoy morale for the monkeys at typewriters. ;)
This is dangerous talk. How can you produce the terrifying detail if you are updating frequently? It makes no sense...
 
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