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:eek: Wow! You have really given a lot of attention to details! :)

Overall most things look good, though the barely enough officers and not enough (?) leaders can be a problem in the future. Though, I don't know how they compare to other statistics, parameters and modifiers in importance.
 

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:eek: Wow! You have really given a lot of attention to details! :)

Overall most things look good, though the barely enough officers and not enough (?) leaders can be a problem in the future. Though, I don't know how they compare to other statistics, parameters and modifiers in importance.

The thing with leaders is that they gain experience, and more importantly skill and traits over time, which is especially important when they are leading battles. Brigades gain experience more slowly and do so anyway, with or without a leader. For me the greatest weakness of not having enough leaders is having battles lead by 'no leader' (which in reality would mean someone unqualified, and untalented would be leading the battle). I guess that in battles lead by ok leaders divisions without leaders suffer a bit more casualties, but the effect doesn't seem very bad. (in the few cases I have had this situation)

I have never done a play-trough with the Soviet Union, so playing through this game, I might become a bit of an expert on this topic...

The problem with the officer number is that I don't have the leadership to spare right now, and am thinking of keeping the ratio around 100% until the -15% LS modifier goes away. You could say that reorganising the officer corps is a massive investment of leadership into our officers. It would even be pretty historically accurate overall, seeing the real lack of well trained officers on all levels of the Red Army at the start of the Winter War. Even though I'm not going for full historical accuracy.

Attention to detail is why I love diving into this game when I have the time. It really portray so many factors and statistics. I keep a spreadsheet for every game, while playing. Just to keep track of details. This may mean the game takes longer but I like it that way. Tell me when the updates seem too pedantic, in real life conversation I tend to drone on about details, making people tune out, and I'd like to keep this AAR palatable. Maybe some more narrative is needed?
 

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I see your point, but was thinking that if you have no un-assigned leaders right now, quite a few units could suffer from those "no leader" penalties when your army grows larger.

With your lowered leadership you are right to spend more on research than officers, that's true.

Your way of playing the game seems slightly different from mine, but I'm not scared away yet at least.;) I wouldn't be surprised if I learned something from your AAR.:)
 
19th & 21st of January 1937, Meeting on the direction of IC usage. Start of IC expansion

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The 19th of January 1937, in a secret facility, in the woods near Vologda, 10am Moscow time

I received a note from 'Sem' ' explaining that tomorrow, the last of the trucks needed to replace the horses of 32 KD, and 9 KD's four cavalry brigades would be delivered. He pointed out that the factories had received demands for only half the amount of trucks in the follow-up order. Moreover 7. BAP's armoured cars will be completed on the 21st. New factories have also been readied for production. 'Sem' ' suggested that we start thinking about new production orders (to the tune of about 7-8.5 IC). So I took this to the committee, the secret one of course. This had to be decided before the Central Committee started real discussions about this topic, so Stalin could block unproductive proposals and know what to support.

Vladimir M. Orlov suggested building two, or at least one new Kiev-Class(III) Destroyer flotilla.
Yakov V. Smushkevich suggested a new wing of Sukhoi Su-2 'Ivanov' Close Air Support bombers
Both Michail N. Tuchatjevskij, and (ex-)Lt. General Belov proposed training and equipping Engineers to improve the versatility of our Armoured Collums, especially on bad terrain and when crossing rivers.
(ex-)Lt. General Strepuhov also proposed some engineers, but to supplement some infantry Divisions to help them deal with fortifications and rivers.
Finally (ex-)Generals Eideman and Primakov both cut short the discussion by suggesting that we build more factories(2 IC), preferably far away from all our borders, this to ensure supplies for our huge army even if all imports are cut off and part of our factories are out of order. They would have suggested improving infrastructure, but we don't have the knowhow for large scale infrastructure improvement yet.

The plan to build new factories was cheered as the wisest choice, and a good compromise, everyone realising that this would mean more usable production capacity in the long term. As no one expected us to go to war this year, and the factories could theoretically be ready by the end of November, the temporary loss of military production would be more than made up for. Primakov Calculated that with current build time and cost, and current industrial laws, the investment would be recuperated in approximately three years and six months after their completion. So by the end of May 1941, at the very latest, but probably a lot sooner with efficiency gains and new laws, the investment will have payed for itself production-wise.

By 1pm Stalin asked for advice on this very subject, and was quickly convinced of the need for more factories.

The 21st of January 1937,

After a long Central Committee meeting construction of new Industrial Complexes was started in both Kurgan, and Tjumen. The fact that it was freezing up to -10°C did not seem to bother anyone, not in Moscow nor on the new construction sites.

construction-of-a-new-open-hearth-plant-in-ural-EK3C3W.jpg

A photograph from the construction in Tjumen. Showing the heroic workers braving the cold to build our factories.

"Others merely adopted the cold winter. Siberian construction workers were born in it. Molded by it"
 
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The 24th of January 1937, 11am Moscow time, -10,2°C, Just outside of Vologda.

A triple parallel run of L Arm-> Arm upgrades, and two Infantry Division will finish production within the next ten days. Industry officials suggest replacing these with more of the same in our factories. The secret committee will have to voice an opinion on these matters.

With the deployment of our medium tanks we will be infiltrating each Guards Tank Division that receives them.

Report on the state of the soviet union for the ten day period between the 15th and the 24th of January 1937,
by 'Odin'

Army:
Army numbers (Brigades/Personnel) Reserves included:
Frontline troops: 415 / 1.245.000
Support troops: 37 / 37.000
Total fighting troops: 452 / 1.282.000
Headquarters: 52 / 26.000
Total Army Personnel: 501 / 1.301.000
Officers: 50.871 / 50.550 needed / 100,64%
Active Leaders: 121 / 0 Reserve
Added in the last ten days: 1xAC and 4xMot finished upgrading from Cav / 13.000
Air Force:
VVS Numbers (Wings/Planes)
Interceptors: 9 / 900
Close Air Support: 1 / 100
Single Engined: 10 / 1.000
Tactical Bomber: 4 / 400
Total Bombers: 5 /500
Total VVS: 14 / 1.400
Active Leaders: 6 / 10 Reserve
No new planes in the last ten days.​
Navy:
Navy Numbers (Flotillas / Ships)
Transports: 1 / 5
AG-boat Class (I): 11 / 55
Series II Class(II): 9 / 45
Series V-bis Class(III): 3 / 15
Submarines: 23 / 115
Norvik-Class (I) : 3 / 15
Gnevnyi-Class (II): 1 / 5
Destroyers: 4 / 20
Light Cruisers / Profitern-Class (I): 3
Escorts: 7 / 23
Heavy Cruiser / Krasnyi Kavkaz (I): 1
Battleships / Gangut-Class (I): 3
Capitals: 4
Total combat ships: 11 / 27
Total Navy: 35 / 147
Leaders: The Navy is being reorganised, no accurate statistics available... It takes a while to sail old submarines from Leningrad to Vladivostok...
No new ships in the last ten days​
Politics:
No new laws, no new assignments.​
Industry:
Industry Numbers:
Working Industrial Capacity / Available capacity: 163 / 166
IC Usage: ( Allocated IC / Need)
Upgrades: 4,15 / 129,43
Reinforcement: 5,15 / 140,78 (Most divisions still have to reinforce following the 2 year draft policy)
Supplies: 0 / 0 (We are currently importing 93,5 supplies every day)
Production: 74,19 / 74,19
Consumer Goods: 82,5 / 81,83
Stockpiles:
Energy: Maximum
Metal: 37.965 tonnes +
Rares: 16.560 tonnes +
Crude: 19.309 barrels +
Supplies: 42.807 tonnes +
Fuel: 38.789 Barrels +
Money: 2.982 -
Three Industrial Complexes have been delivered in the last ten days but they are not yet operational.​
Intelligence:
Spy numbers, spies in (active / added / lost / caught by us):
France (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 0
Germany (Increase Threat / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 2
UK (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 1
Other: 21 / 0 / 1 / 11
Total: 51 / 0 / 1 / 14
Spy training leadership expenditure: 0,10​
Research:
Elastic Defence 1, Delay Doctrine 1, Mobile Warfare 1 completed, research on Delay Doctrine continues towards the next level (2), and Four Engine Airframe, and Atomic research has been resumed.
Leadership:
Research: 19,96
Espionage: 0,1
Diplomacy: 0,02
Officers: 0
Total: 20,07​
Statistics:
National Unity: 81,608 -
Neutrality: 74,61 -
Dissent: 0,32 -​
Manpower:
Available: 2.225.000 Men
To reinforce(need): 303.600 Men
To mobilize(need): 889.500 Men
Monthly gain: 28.600 Men​
No noticeable changes in Party popularity
Party Organisation:
- Communist Party: 38,8 +
- Trotskyite: 18,0 -
- Bukharinite: 13,0 -​

- Octobrist: 13,5 -
- Trudoviks: 10,1 -
- Social-Revolutionary: 2,5 -​

- Tsarists: 3,7 -
- NTS: 0,0 =​
This Information is accurate on the Morning of the 24th of January 1937, I hope it serves you well in fine-tuning your possible suggestions.

'Odin'
 
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Your research seems to be getting along nicely and you have just finished some doctrine techs, that's always useful.

If the industrial expansion pays off by May 1941, it will (probably) do so right in time for the Great Patriotic War! Though, two IC isn't that much... ;) But some industry practical can't hurt if you want to expand your IC even further afterwards.:)
 

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Your research seems to be getting along nicely and you have just finished some doctrine techs, that's always useful.

If the industrial expansion pays off by May 1941, it will (probably) do so right in time for the Great Patriotic War! Though, two IC isn't that much... ;) But some industry practical can't hurt if you want to expand your IC even further afterwards.:)

There are two more factories in production, they're about halfway through, from before the 4th of January. So there are 4 in production, which seems ok for the moment. Maybe I'll do one larger IC-run once I get to War Economy, with efficiency gains this might still pay off by the probable start of the GPW. (neutrality below 70 is needed). Construction practical will also be further boosted once I start improving infrastructure (infra has the best construction practical gain / ICday). I'm also on a bit of a schedule to upgrade some of my forces (especially armour), before the fighting starts.
 

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Okay, I see. Doing the industrial expansion a little slower at first, while you keep your troops modern, makes sense

Construction practical will also be further boosted once I start improving infrastructure (infra has the best construction practical gain / ICday).

There it was! You tought me something, just like I said you would!:)

Do you know if construction practical reduces build time and cost for things already in production? Because if it doesn't, you might have another reason to wait a little longer before building a lot of IC.
 

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Do you know if construction practical reduces build time and cost for things already in production? Because if it doesn't, you might have another reason to wait a little longer before building a lot of IC.

It seems to me that in TFH (not in FTM for example), the entire production queue gets recalculated whenever you change industry laws, and whenever something completes production. So if anything else (with construction practical) gets finished before your factories, your factories in the queue will get a boost from increased construction practical, and even increased Production Efficiency if it recently improved. So when my next two factories are finished, it will give a boost to the two I just put in the queue. This also means all current production suffers from practical decay...

I might hold off a little on Three year draft (this does hurt manpower a little), after reaching War Economy, so I have the ic to really build some infrastructure/factories without having to dial military spending back too much.

In vanilla HOI3 v1 and FTM (not sure about SF) the cost ICdays of anything you produced was the cost shown at the start of production which, let's be honest, isn't very realistic. I'm actually happy this was changed, as it feels more real.
 

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I agree that the changed system is more realistic.
Also, with it your course of action really seems like a viable option.

A triple parallel run of L Arm-> Arm upgrades, and two Infantry Division will finish production within the next ten days. Industry officials suggest replacing these with more of the same in our factories. The secret committee will have to voice an opinion on these matters.

With the deployment of our medium tanks we will be infiltrating each Guards Tank Division that receives them.

Army:
Army numbers (Brigades/Personnel) Reserves included:
Frontline troops: 415 / 1.245.000
Support troops: 37 / 37.000
Total fighting troops: 452 / 1.282.000
Headquarters: 52 / 26.000
Total Army Personnel: 501 / 1.301.000
Officers: 50.871 / 50.550 needed / 100,64%
Active Leaders: 121 / 0 Reserve
Added in the last ten days: 1xAC and 4xMot finished upgrading from Cav / 13.000

I say the Red Army must (to start with) be reinforced with infantry/motorised units to provide another (in-game) army. So I'd say, produce 15-20 inf/mot divisions and then focus on establishing the Armoured Army Group, though you can do it in reversed order, I don't think that impacts too much.

After this is done, we shall review the status of the world and see what steps are necessary for the Red Army to take.

(If mountaineers get bonuses/reduced penalties in winter combat, it can be good to get 1-2 corps of those for the Finnish Winter War, but that shouldn't be top priority.)
 

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Hi, just finished some writing of my own so had a chance to catch up on your relatively new AAR. Good job! :)

I played the SU for the first time a game or two back. I used it (in part) to hone my skills in using river line defences, which I had been reading about in AARs from more experienced players. They did indeed prove crucial, especially the need to try using river lines from the start of the big fighting withdrawal of 1941. While the Germans couldn't be stopped dead on the border, and defence in depth was needed, the key was to slow them down, cause some casualties and avoid getting large groups cut off and destroyed. Just hanging on until the first winter.

One thing I did do which proved very useful later was to plan my final line of defence, augmenting some gaps in river lines with fortifications. In particular, I began constructing forts in front of Moscow as I assumed the Germans would break through eventually and would drive hard for Moscow. We just held, and while Moscow was never directly attacked, there were some epic battles in front of it and I'm not sure I would have held it otherwise.

The exhausted German attackers then became targets for the first winter counter-attack. I mention all this now as it took a while to build up those defences, and it also contributes to construction practical IIRC. Stalin may not like the assumption behind the forts in depth, but I guess that's what the secret committee is for ;).

Anyway, good luck with this, the scale of the SU makes it a big challenge just to play, let alone do a detailed AAR on - the workers of the world salute you :D!

PS: will be interesting to see how the AG command system goes against the Germans: evens the game up a bit against the AI and is quite realistic.
 
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I say the Red Army must (to start with) be reinforced with infantry/motorised units to provide another (in-game) army. So I'd say, produce 15-20 inf/mot divisions and then focus on establishing the Armoured Army Group, though you can do it in reversed order, I don't think that impacts too much.

An interesting suggestion, it will be taken into account... I might dial down armour upgrades and build more infantry instead, for a while anyway.

(If mountaineers get bonuses/reduced penalties in winter combat, it can be good to get 1-2 corps of those for the Finnish Winter War, but that shouldn't be top priority.)

I just checked, and mountaineers don't seem get winter bonuses. They do however get serious Arctic terrain bonuses. A mountaineer corps might be moved up to Murmansk, to join Archanglesk HQ. Thanks for reminding me of this very important fact.

One thing I did do which proved very useful later was to plan my final line of defence, augmenting some gaps in river lines with fortifications. In particular, I began constructing forts in front of Moscow as I assumed the Germans would break through eventually and would drive hard for Moscow. We just held, and while Moscow was never directly attacked, there were some epic battles in front of it and I'm not sure I would have held it otherwise.

I was already thinking of significantly improving infrastructure just behind river lines, therefore providing more supply, and faster reorganisation to units standing right behind it. Your fortress suggestion is intriguing, there was a plan in the real world SU to build a line of fortresses to stop a possible German invasion, but after the Maginot line debacle they decided against it. (if I recall correctly). Tuchatjevskij historically proposed defence in depth with armour to fortify weak points, and to later counterattack. I will of course not be able to do a detailed defence in depth as you could commanding all individual divisions. (corps split between front line and the province behind it, mobile reserves, hedgehog cities,...). I might possibly keep one AG behind the front line with it's corps prepositioned in cities, and only give it an AI order when the Germans reach them.

What do you guys think about the Guards, I was planning on building some divisions, but i am hesitating between spreading them out throughout the western front or creating special elite guards corps. This is long term of course, as guards production is pretty inefficient in practical gain / ICday.
 
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The 25th of January 1937, 11pm Moscow time

The entire day was filled with secret committee discussion about possible changes in industrial production, after the delivery of hundreds of new tanks for the three Guards Tank Divisions, close to 14 IC would be freed up. The discussions raged on for the entire day, till at last, a compromise was reached. 1. GvTD will have it's second Guards Tank regiment also upgraded to T18s, while the two other GvTD's will have to wait their turn. An argument was made for more infantry, but Tuchatjevskij insisted that this should be a special unit with a brigade of ZiS-30 Tank Destroyers. So a 2xInf, 1xTD unit to be directly dependent of IV. Corps HQ, was added to the wishlist (considering the cost of the equipment the TD's are to be left in control of the more skilled Corps commanders). Furthermore arguments were made for more factories, and for fortress building. It was decided to go with the construction of another Industrial Complex. Fortress proponents were swayed by the fact that more IC will inevitably lead to more possible fortress building in the future...

The two Infantry Divisions (3xInf, 1xAT) that will soon be completed, should be followed by more of the same, this was unanimous, except for Vladimir M. Orlov, who insists on more ships (no one listened to his tirade explaining why the SU needed a world-class navy)

The 26th of January, 11am Moscow time

I just received word from Stalin himself that the proposal was accepted, making the list of new production:

- A new Industrial Complex in Kopeysk
- 2 GvTP (Guards Tank Regiment) to be outfitted with T18's
- One unit of two Inf regiments, and one TD regiment to be added to IV. SK (Infantry Corps)

Stalin also proposed an interesting thinking point: If we want to add Artillery to our units, should we go for Art/SP-Art or for R Art/SP R Art ? The former being more efficient on the defensive and less expensive to supply, while the latter is faster, suffers less harsh terrain penalties, and is cheaper to produce.
 
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The 2nd of February 1937, 6am Moscow Time

From 'Dva' to 'Odin'

From Baku, at the foot of the Caucasus Mountains​

Thousands of our Mountaineer Riflemen, just started boarding trains that will take them all the way to Murmansk as Field Marshall Alekhin had requested. The Field Marshall, not being a particularly brilliant commander, does know about winter and Arctic fighting, and having seen some of these elite troops in action, he has successfully petitioned Stalin to add a corps of Mountaineers, currently in the Caucasus, to his Archanglesk Theatre in order to cover the arctic part of the Finnish border, and the strategic Naval Base of Murmansk.

Here is a picture of what these impressive elite climbers are capable of:
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I also just received word that both 38. SD and 41. SD (both Infx3, ATx1), have been deployed to II., and V. SK. 34., and 37. SD have now begun training while their equipment is being produced.

I have also included the usual figures for your report tomorrow.

May Stalin's Red Army one day conquer the world,

'Dva'​
 
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The 3rd of February 1937, 10am Moscow time, -10,0°C, Just outside of Vologda.

The Secret committee approves of Field Marshall Alekhin's initiative, and does not want this redeployment of the entire XXII. GSK to be reversed or halted.

Report on the state of the soviet union for the ten day period between the 25th of January and the 3rd of February 1937,
by 'Odin'

Army:
Army numbers (Brigades/Personnel) Reserves included:
Frontline troops: 423 / 1.269.000
Support troops: 39 / 39.000
Total fighting troops: 462 / 1.308.000
Headquarters: 52 / 26.000
Total Army Personnel: 514 / 1.334.000
Officers: 50.871 / 51.550 needed / 98,683%
Active Leaders: 121 / 0 Reserve
Added in the last ten days: 2x 3xInf, 1xAT and 3xArm finished upgrading from L Arm / 29.000
Air Force:
VVS Numbers (Wings/Planes)
Interceptors: 9 / 900
Close Air Support: 1 / 100
Single Engined: 10 / 1.000
Tactical Bomber: 4 / 400
Total Bombers: 5 /500
Total VVS: 14 / 1.400
Active Leaders: 6 / 10 Reserve
No new planes in the last ten days.​
Navy:
Navy Numbers (Flotillas / Ships)
Transports: 1 / 5
AG-boat Class (I): 11 / 55
Series II Class(II): 9 / 45
Series V-bis Class(III): 3 / 15
Submarines: 23 / 115
Norvik-Class (I) : 3 / 15
Gnevnyi-Class (II): 1 / 5
Destroyers: 4 / 20
Light Cruisers / Profitern-Class (I): 3
Escorts: 7 / 23
Heavy Cruiser / Krasnyi Kavkaz (I): 1
Battleships / Gangut-Class (I): 3
Capitals: 4
Total combat ships: 11 / 27
Total Navy: 35 / 147
Leaders: The Navy is still being reorganised, no accurate statistics available... It takes a really long while to sail old submarines from Leningrad to Vladivostok...
No new ships in the last ten days​
Politics:
No new laws, no new assignments.​

Industry:
Industry Numbers:
Working Industrial Capacity / Available capacity: 164 / 167
IC Usage: ( Allocated IC / Need)
Upgrades: 3,10 / 123,50
Reinforcement: 6,21 / 142,88 (Most divisions still have to reinforce following the 2 year draft policy)
Supplies: 0 / 2,74 (We are currently importing 93,5 supplies every day)
Production: 74,69 / 74,69
Consumer Goods: 83,00 / 82,16
Stockpiles:
Energy: Maximum
Metal: 38.602 tonnes +
Rares: 16.818 tonnes +
Crude: 19.712 barrels +
Supplies: 43.484 tonnes +
Fuel: 39.485 Barrels +
Money: 2.969 -​

Intelligence:
Spies reported on the discovery of some Illegal printing in Germany, they do not know what measures were taken in response.
Spy numbers, spies in (active / added / lost / caught by us):
France (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 1
Germany (Increase Threat / Counterespionnage): 10 / 2 / 2 / 2
UK (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 1
Other: 21 / 0 / 0 / 4
Total: 51 / 2 / 2 / 8
Spy training leadership expenditure: 0,10​

Research:

Integrated Support 1, Central planning 1, Interception Tactics 1 completed, research on all these continues towards the next level (2)​

Leadership:
Research: 19,96
Espionage: 0,1
Diplomacy: 0,02
Officers: 0
Total: 20,07​

Statistics:
National Unity: 81,598 -
Neutrality: 74,5 -
Dissent: 0,26 -
Manpower:
Available: 2.214.000 Men
To reinforce(need): 306.600 Men
To mobilize(need): 906.200 Men
Monthly gain: 28.600 Men (1 fully mobilised Infx3, AT Division every 12 days)​
Party Popularity:
- Communist Party: 39 +
- Trotskyite: 14,0 -
- Bukharinite: 18,0 +​

- Octobrist: 16 -
- Trudoviks: 3 -
- Social-Revolutionary: 2 -
- Kadets: 2 +​

- Tsarists: 3 -
- NTS: 3 -
Party Organisation:
- Communist Party: 39,3 +
- Trotskyite: 17,9 -
- Bukharinite: 12,9 -​

- Octobrist: 13,4 -
- Trudoviks: 10,0 -
- Social-Revolutionary: 2,4 -
- Kadets: 0,0 =​

- Tsarists: 3,6 -
- NTS: 0,0 =

The Kadets, Market Liberals are a surprising new political faction, as they are gaining in popularity without any organisation to speak of. Otherwise the push for better Communist Party Organisation seems to be slowly paying off. the government is still fractured, but a bit less so than last month...
This Information is accurate on the Morning of the 3rd of February 1937, I hope it serves you well in fine-tuning your possible suggestions.

'Odin'
 
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The 10th of February 1937, 3pm Moscow Time,

I have just received a letter from 'Piat' ' about the new peacetime deployment of the red navy following the plans laid out by official Chief of the Navy Mikhail V. Viktorov.

From 'Piat' ' to Odin,
After a thorough reorganisation, this is how the navy looks:

Red Banner Baltic Fleet, Kuznetsov SK3, ST
- Marat BB(I)
- Parizhkaya Kommuna BB(I)
- Krasni Kavkaz CA(I)
- Profitern CL(I)
- Pamiat Merkuriya CL(I)
- 1. Flotiliya Esmintsev DD(I)
- 5. Flotiliya Esmintsev DD(I)
- 7. Flotiliya Esmintsev DD(I)
Black Sea Fleet, Kucherov SK1, OG, ST
- Okyabrskaya Revoluciya BB(I)
- Chervonaya Ukraina CL(I)
- 4. Flotiliya Esmintsev DD(II)
- 1. Transportnaya Flotiliya TP(I)
I Flot Podlodok, Dolinin SK3, Spt.
- 12. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(III)
- 13. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(III)
- 14. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(III)
II Flot Podlodok, Gorshkov SK3
- 1. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
- 2. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
III Flot Podlodok, Tributs SK3
- 3. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
- 4. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
IV Flot Podlodok, Rakov SK2, Spt.
- 5. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
- 6. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
V Flot Podlodok, Panteleiev SK2, ST
- 7. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
- 29. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
- 32. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(II)
VI Flot Podlodok, Vinogradov SK1, SW
- 11. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 17. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 18. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
VII Flot Podlodok, Lumashev SK2
- 19. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 20. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
VIII Flot Podlodok, Oktyabrskij SK2
- 21. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 22. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
IX Flot Podlodok, Drozd SK1, ST
- 23. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 24. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
X Flot Podlodok, Arapov SK1
- 25. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
- 26. Flotiliya Podlodok SS(I)
Both surface fleets are currently based in Sevastopol,
I through V Flot Podlodok are based in Leningrad,
and VI through X are based in Vladivostok.

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Battleship Marat, flagship of our newly assembled Red Banner Baltic Fleet, just outside of Sevastopol before setting sail for Leningrad.​
May Stalin's communism one day rule the waves,

'Piat' '
The 13th of February 1937, 10am Moscow time, -10,0°C, Just outside of Vologda.

Report on the state of the soviet union for the ten day period between the 4th and the 13th of February 1937,
by 'Odin'

Army:
No changes to the Army in the last ten days.
Army numbers (Brigades/Personnel) Reserves included:
Frontline troops: 423 / 1.269.000
Support troops: 39 / 39.000

Total fighting troops: 462 / 1.308.000
Headquarters: 52 / 26.000
Total Army Personnel: 514 / 1.334.000
Officers: 50.871 / 51.550 needed / 98,683%
Active Leaders: 121 / 0 Reserve
Air Force:
No changes to the VVS in the last ten days
VVS Numbers (Wings/Planes)
Interceptors: 9 / 900
Close Air Support: 1 / 100

Single Engined: 10 / 1.000
Tactical Bomber: 4 / 400
Total Bombers: 5 /500
Total VVS: 14 / 1.400
Active Leaders: 6 / 10 Reserve

Navy:
Navy Numbers (Flotillas / Ships)
Transports: 1 / 5
AG-boat Class (I): 11 / 55
Series II Class(II): 9 / 45
Series V-bis Class(III): 3 / 15
Submarines: 23 / 115
Norvik-Class (I) : 3 / 15
Gnevnyi-Class (II): 1 / 5
Destroyers: 4 / 20
Light Cruisers / Profitern-Class (I): 3
Escorts: 7 / 23
Heavy Cruiser / Krasnyi Kavkaz (I): 1
Battleships / Gangut-Class (I): 3
Capitals: 4
Total combat ships: 11 / 27
Total Navy: 35 / 147
Leaders: 12 / 4 Reserve
No new ships in the last ten days​
Politics:
No new laws, no new assignments.​

Industry:
Industry Numbers:
Working Industrial Capacity / Available capacity: 164 / 167
IC Usage: ( Allocated IC / Need)
Upgrades: 3,10 / 122,71
Reinforcement: 6,20 / 141,02 (Most divisions still have to reinforce following the 2 year draft policy)
Supplies: 0 / 2,96 (We are currently importing 93,5 supplies every day)
Production: 74,69 / 74,69
Consumer Goods: 83,00 / 82,00
Stockpiles:
Energy: Maximum
Metal: 39.458 tonnes +
Rares: 17.074 tonnes +
Crude: 20.116 barrels +
Supplies: 43.945 tonnes +
Fuel: 40.309 Barrels +
Money: 2.941 -​

Intelligence:
Spy numbers, spies in (active / added / lost / caught by us):
France (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 0
Germany (Increase Threat / Counterespionnage): 9 / 1 / 2 / 1
UK (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 1
Other: 20 / 0 / 1 / 6
Total: 50 / 1 / 3 / 8
Spy training leadership expenditure: 0,12​

Research:
No new research started or finished
Leadership:
Research: 19,95
Espionage: 0,12
Diplomacy: 0,01
Officers: 0
Total: 20,07​

Statistics:
National Unity: 81,588 -
Neutrality: 74,25 -
Dissent: 0,20 -
Manpower:
Available: 2.219.000 Men
To reinforce(need): 302.300 Men
To mobilize(need): 901.700 Men
Monthly gain: 28.600 Men (1 fully mobilised Infx3, AT Division every 12 days)​
No changes in party popularity
Party Organisation:
- Communist Party: 39,9 +
- Trotskyite: 17,9 =
- Bukharinite: 12,9 =​

- Octobrist: 13,4 =
- Trudoviks: 10,0 =
- Social-Revolutionary: 2,41 + (foreign spy activity)
- Kadets: 0,0 =​

- Tsarists: 3,6 =
- NTS: 0,0 =​

This Information is accurate on the Morning of the 13th of February 1937, I hope it serves you well in fine-tuning your possible suggestions.

'Odin'
 
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I'd go for normal Art/SP-Art if it's better on the defensive. But smaller harsh terrain penalties can also prove useful, in the Belorussian forests and marshes. And, of course, R Art/SP-R Art are more useful as offensive tools if they're faster.

My suggestion is that you fill out INF units with Art, while ARM and MOT divisions recieve SP-R Art, to work in counterattacks and offensives. Then you get a bit of both.
 

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I'd go for normal Art/SP-Art if it's better on the defensive. But smaller harsh terrain penalties can also prove useful, in the Belorussian forests and marshes. And, of course, R Art/SP-R Art are more useful as offensive tools if they're faster.

My suggestion is that you fill out INF units with Art, while ARM and MOT divisions recieve SP-R Art, to work in counterattacks and offensives. Then you get a bit of both.

The main problem with this best of both worlds scenario is research cost, if I was playing USA, I would consider it, but in this case:
Art would cost a little to catch up, but considering shared theoretical knowledge with AT it would be about the same as researching just R Art techs (rocket theoretical knowledge).
Researching both would cost me research slots, and with the size of the army, and the limited leadership I just don't see this as a worthwhile use of leadership. So I'm still on the fence, but I still have time to decide, I could wait another in-game year before even starting research on either R Art development, or the two Artillery techs. Superior firepower is a 1941 tech, so I might rush it a bit, but not more than one year ahead of time, and only when that is done will I actually add Art-R Art to units in the field.
I'm giving priority to AT and TD for Inf/Mot divisions, AC for L Arm (cavalry), and Eng for the Tank and Guards Tank Divisions. Because I should have the numbers to make up for an initial lack of Artillery, while Tanks will tear right through entire armies lacking dedicated AT/TD capabilities. Also Armour Divisions need some help getting over rivers, and moving about in bad weather (mud), with the amount of IC they cost, it would be stupid to have them slowed to a crawl at the tiniest obstacle.
 
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The 23rd of January 1937, 10am Moscow time, -10,0°C, Just outside of Vologda.

Report on the state of the soviet union for the ten day period between the 4th and the 13th of February 1937,
by 'Odin'

Army:
No changes to the Army in the last ten days.
Army numbers (Brigades/Personnel) Reserves included:
Frontline troops: 423 / 1.269.000
Support troops: 39 / 39.000

Total fighting troops: 462 / 1.308.000
Headquarters: 52 / 26.000
Total Army Personnel: 514 / 1.334.000
Officers: 50.871 / 51.550 needed / 98,683%
Active Leaders: 121 / 0 Reserve
Air Force:
No changes to the VVS in the last ten days
VVS Numbers (Wings/Planes)
Interceptors: 9 / 900
Close Air Support: 1 / 100

Single Engined: 10 / 1.000
Tactical Bomber: 4 / 400
Total Bombers: 5 /500
Total VVS: 14 / 1.400
Active Leaders: 6 / 10 Reserve

Navy:
No changes in Navy numbers in the last ten days
Navy Numbers (Flotillas / Ships)
Transports: 1 / 5
AG-boat Class (I): 11 / 55
Series II Class(II): 9 / 45
Series V-bis Class(III): 3 / 15

Submarines: 23 / 115
Norvik-Class (I) : 3 / 15
Gnevnyi-Class (II): 1 / 5

Destroyers: 4 / 20
Light Cruisers / Profitern-Class (I): 3
Escorts: 7 / 23
Heavy Cruiser / Krasnyi Kavkaz (I): 1
Battleships / Gangut-Class (I): 3

Capitals: 4
Total combat ships: 11 / 27
Total Navy: 35 / 147
Leaders: 12 / 4 Reserve
No new ships in the last ten days
Politics:
No new laws, no new assignments.​

Industry:
Industry Numbers:
Working Industrial Capacity / Available capacity: 164 / 167
IC Usage: ( Allocated IC / Need)
Upgrades: 3,26 / 120,34
Reinforcement: 6,54 / 136,76 (Most divisions still have to reinforce following the 2 year draft policy)
Supplies: 0 / 3,18 (We are currently importing 93,5 supplies every day)
Production: 74,69 / 74,69
Consumer Goods: 82,50 / 82,00
IC is flowing back to Upgrades and Reinforcements from CG, because dissent is getting nice and low
Stockpiles:
Energy: Maximum
Metal: 40.421 tonnes +
Rares: 17.329 tonnes +
Crude: 20.520 barrels +
Supplies: 44.157 tonnes +
Fuel: 41.057 Barrels +
Money: 2.905 -​

Intelligence:
Spy numbers, spies in (active / added / lost / caught by us):
France (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 0
Germany (Increase Threat / Counterespionnage): 10 / 3 / 2 / 1
UK (Tech Espionage / Counterespionnage): 10 / 0 / 0 / 2
Other: 19 / 0 / 1 / 4
Total: 49 / 3 / 3 / 7
Spy training leadership expenditure: 0,18
LS spending on spies has gone up because 3 spies had to be replaced in 10 days in Germany, even though their number of counterespionage agents is 2. We are now down to 2 free spies.
Research:
Atomic Research finished, research on Agriculture 4 started, research of Fighter Ground Crew Training continues towards the next level (2)

Leadership:
Research: 19,89
Espionage: 0,18
Diplomacy: 0,01
Officers: 0
Total: 20,07
See Intelligence

Statistics:
National Unity: 81,578 -
Neutrality: 74,00 -
Dissent: 0,13 -
Manpower:
Available: 2.225.000 Men
To reinforce(need): 298.700 Men
To mobilize(need): 897.500 Men
Monthly gain: 28.600 Men (1 fully mobilised Infx3, AT Division every 12 days)​
No changes in party popularity
Party Organisation:
- Communist Party: 40,21 +
- Trotskyite: 17,8 -
- Bukharinite: 12,8 -

- Octobrist: 13,3 -
- Trudoviks: 9,9 -
- Social-Revolutionary: 2,40 - (foreign spy activity)
- Kadets: 0,0 =

- Tsarists: 3,5 -
- NTS: 0,0 =​

This Information is accurate on the Morning of the 23rd of February 1937, I hope it serves you well in fine-tuning your possible suggestions.

'Odin'

I'm posting these in pretty quick succession because little happens, the rhythm will of course slow down when I have less time on my hands and more happens in ten days... . Quick question, would you like me to highlight in colour the elements of particular interest within the presented data, wherever a trend is broken, or something big happens?
 
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Quick question, would you like me to highlight in colour the elements of particular interest within the presented data, wherever a trend is broken, or something big happens?
That would be helpful I think. Perhaps a highlight and if applicable a short comment to say why the change was significant or noteworthy?