Ode to Empires [Alt Timeline]

[Zhetone]

Even if the Ottomans survive they should be weak, so long as nothing radically different has happened.
In fact, I believe the timeline included Russia winning the Crimean War. The Ottomans should be reliant on the Austrians completely. Perhaps they would be slightly more industrialized, but they are no more the "terrible Turks" than they were in OTL, if I'm not mistaken. Of course, that's up to Ostheim, but I don't think he intended the Ottomans to be a powerhouse. If anything, they're probably a "secondary power".

From Ostheim's posts:

"Ottomans are in decline, but through a bit of luck and providence have managed to slow down that decline. A war with Persia and decisive defensive actions in the Bulgarian region have saved the Ottomans from any vast reductions of wealth or land."
I would read this to mean the Ottomans are slightly better off than they were in real life, but are still basically doomed to fail.

 

[unmerged(301242)]

will there be arabian revolts against turkish hegemony in near east?

 

[Ostheim]

Sorry for the delay folks, I will reply to your questions within the next 24 hours. I have been working solely on getting the mod to a playtestable state.

 

[Silas60]

Ostheim are you going to add new units?

 

[Ostheim]

Ostheim are you going to add new units?

Hadn't planned on it, what do you have in mind?

 

[Silas60]

I thought about airships, light infantry and special units (1st Foot Guards [1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß] of the Royal Prussian Army)

 

[Ostheim]

I thought about airships, light infantry and special units (1st Foot Guards [1. Garde-Regiment zu Fuß] of the Royal Prussian Army)

It's a good idea, I'll go for that

 

[Ostheim]

Looking for specialists to work on specific nations, for example Britain, France, and Italy. I have three helpers now, one for Russian area, one for Scandinavia, and one for North America.

 

[von Guderian]

Well i can work on France (i'm french and studying history). If you tell me what you need i'll be able to gather informations pretty fast.

 

[korodikrisz]

I have three helpers now, one for Russian area, one for Scandinavia, and one for North America.

And about 5 for Romania

 

[NorwayBernd]

Looking for specialists to work on specific nations, for example Britain, France, and Italy. I have three helpers now, one for Russian area, one for Scandinavia, and one for North America.

I can help with Scandinavia at least, probably Germany as well. Anything in particular you need? Ministers, tech teams?

 

[Fizbun]

Dreams

I still dream that through following certain events Prussia can backstab Austria and wage war with the Entente and what's left of the Central Powers, my dream is to crush Austria as Prussia and form Germany.

There just has to be a slim chance that Prussia would want to reclaim their old lands and claim new ones.

 

[Ostheim]

I still dream that through following certain events Prussia can backstab Austria and wage war with the Entente and what's left of the Central Powers, my dream is to crush Austria as Prussia and form Germany.

There just has to be a slim chance that Prussia would want to reclaim their old lands and claim new ones.

I feel that urge would have subsided mostly by 1900 in my timeline, but since several people have expressed the desire I will indulge you with some decision that can be made at game start as Prussia. It may or may not cause issues with events and AI (will need an AI switch I think) but I will add it nonetheless.

I can help with Scandinavia at least, probably Germany as well. Anything in particular you need? Ministers, tech teams?

All of the above! Anyone volunteering to help please contact me on Skype @ ostheimf or send me a PM on the forum.

 

[BrunoDerKaiser]

I have thought of a few options in the event of a glorious Austrian victory over the Prussians.

The Treaty of Hofburg

Option 1: Fragmentation.

Divide Prussia into states dependent to the Austrian crown (puppets). Silesia maybe goes to Austria. Release Hannover, Lower Saxony and puppet a tiny Prussia that is only Prussia itself. Also release Brandenburg as an Austrian puppet.

Option 2: Punishment (ala versailles)

Prussia cedes land to Poland, releases Hannover and is forced to pay reparations, which would be events that fire each year taking resources from Prussia and giving it to Austria. Austria gets Silesia.

Option 3: Habsburg Hoch! Prussia is made a puppet and Silesia is taken.

 

[Rainbow Crash]

If you want help with Japan, just ask! I'll be glad to help.

 

[unmerged(301242)]

@BrunoDerKaiser: point 2 is heavily unrealistic. Austria would never secede german land to foreign or even polish hands. Never.

 

[whatguts]

@BrunoDerKaiser: point 2 is heavily unrealistic. Austria would never secede german land to foreign or even polish hands. Never.

germany did it in WW1, and again in WW2

 

[korodikrisz]

germany did it in WW1, and again in WW2

Yeah, because they were on the loser side. Der Kaiser is speaking about the scenario when Austria defeats Prussia. Especially not when they are close to uniting the Germanic tribes together.

 

[Ostheim]

Yeah, because they were on the loser side. Der Kaiser is speaking about the scenario when Austria defeats Prussia. Especially not when they are close to uniting the Germanic tribes together.

It's true, I doubt Austria would give Poland any new lands in this scenario. By the date of game start the Polish lands that Prussia took from Russian control had begun to be populated with a number of Germans.

All in all it's a good proposal BrunoDerKaiser.

 

[korodikrisz]

It's true, I doubt Austria would give Poland any new lands in this scenario.

From German territories. I think giving them some Russian stuff from the East is more-or-less acceptable.

How are you doing? Any progress report for us?