Odd Thought
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks conquering spain is weird as France. I mean Spain, Protugal and England would be your major colonial/trade competitors. England is tucked safely away on the isles so Aragon and Castile look ripe for the picking.
Dunno, maybe i'm just evil
Dunno, maybe i'm just evil
An aesthetic thing. Random French blobs in Iberia just look ugly. That said, I'll be happy to take a bite out of Spain (although I'd prefer to play as Spain and take a bite out of France).I'm not sure why everyone thinks conquering spain is weird as France. I mean Spain, Protugal and England would be your major colonial/trade competitors. England is tucked safely away on the isles so Aragon and Castile look ripe for the picking.
Dunno, maybe i'm just evil
It's not about Aesthetics, to me, it's avout historical plausability, but Barcelona, I don't really understand why France would conquer a part of Iberia.
It's decent land, and the way the map was set up in EU3 you could take a decent amount of provinces without really expanding the length of your borders. Also plenty of coastal provinces for a nation that could really use them.
So I was looking at the ideas and here's what i'm thinking
1. Diplomacy - For the core cost reduction and the much needed diplomacy relations bonus (since you start at max IIRC). I'd probably stop the track at the core creation costs for the next idea.
2. Exploration/Economic - I'm going to get both of these but the order depends upon what happens. If Castile and England are pretty well distracted I might go econ. However If it looks like the new world is well on its way to being colonized, I'll push that way. This is also why I mentioned invading Iberia. If Spain is dead, they aren't colonizing are they? lol
4. Aristocratic - Good solid leader bonuses and some bonus to cav
5. Offense - Good complementing leader bonuses with Aristocratic.
6/7/8 - Quality/Trade/Expansion. Depending upon my current need. Extra merchants from trade is much appreciated since I plan on controlling NA (at least as much as I can). Expansion gives nice trade bonuses, an extra merchant and colonist. Lastly Quality gives very nice damage boosts to the military.
Now the big issue I can see happening is I have selected 1 Admin NI, 4 Diplo and 3 Military. I could really see running low on diplomacy points because I have soo many NIs for them. WIth that said the big spender for those are peace deals and culture conversion (really pricey). I am debating swapping something out for Innovative. I'm oscillating between Trade and Expansion. I'm not sure I need the trade steering with France's setup. It looks like the trade nodes from NA go directly to Sevilla, London or Bordeaux. At the same time I may not need a 3rd colonist or the 2 additional diplomacy relations given i'm taking Diplomacy.
Of course Merchants are always useful, A colonist isn't. Once the world is colonized, they aren't doing anything. Their big value is coming from getting their first.
So how does this setup sound for a moderate Europe Land warring france with colonial interests?
1. Diplomacy - For the core cost reduction and the much needed diplomacy relations bonus (since you start at max IIRC). I'd probably stop the track at the core creation costs for the next idea.
2. Exploration/Economic - I'm going to get both of these but the order depends upon what happens. If Castile and England are pretty well distracted I might go econ. However If it looks like the new world is well on its way to being colonized, I'll push that way. This is also why I mentioned invading Iberia. If Spain is dead, they aren't colonizing are they? lol
4. Aristocratic - Good solid leader bonuses and some bonus to cav
5. Offense - Good complementing leader bonuses with Aristocratic.
6/7/8 - Quality/Trade/Expansion. Depending upon my current need. Extra merchants from trade is much appreciated since I plan on controlling NA (at least as much as I can). Expansion gives nice trade bonuses, an extra merchant and colonist. Lastly Quality gives very nice damage boosts to the military.
Now the big issue I can see happening is I have selected 1 Admin NI, 4 Diplo and 3 Military. I could really see running low on diplomacy points because I have soo many NIs for them. WIth that said the big spender for those are peace deals and culture conversion (really pricey). I am debating swapping something out for Innovative. I'm oscillating between Trade and Expansion. I'm not sure I need the trade steering with France's setup. It looks like the trade nodes from NA go directly to Sevilla, London or Bordeaux. At the same time I may not need a 3rd colonist or the 2 additional diplomacy relations given i'm taking Diplomacy.
Of course Merchants are always useful, A colonist isn't. Once the world is colonized, they aren't doing anything. Their big value is coming from getting their first.
So how does this setup sound for a moderate Europe Land warring france with colonial interests?