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Zanza said:
I had hoped for a bit different economic system in this iteration, but it looks like we get the same again. No icon for TC yet, but then again there is a box in the top bar that is still missing icons.

I wonder what the round button with the German cross on it below the Menu and next to the Politics button is.
That could be a plus for changing the game speed.
 

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To be honest but harsh, as I think there are enough optimism as of now: These screenshots are not impressive to me at all. The borders between provinces are once again edgy, randomized and not accurate. The colouring might be easy to fix (avoid purple and especially pink, concentrate on flagbased colours), just don't forget to actually do it, and remember to make them distinguishable to colourblind people, because you do have some loyal customers that are actually colourblind, that I know of. I remember the alpha pictures for EU3 which had similar problems, which were not less impressive than these pictures, and those problems were not fixed in the later stage of development either, not even after two expansions.
 

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Zanza said:
I had hoped for a bit different economic system in this iteration, but it looks like we get the same again. No icon for TC yet, but then again there is a box in the top bar that is still missing icons.

I wonder what the round button with the German cross on it below the Menu and next to the Politics button is.
Might be used to access the ledger? But then I still don't understand the use of the iron cross. Although that symbol would probably change according to which nation you play.
Also curious if there will be anything like the outliner from EU3 in the game. In my opinion that was very helpful.
 

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Samilou said:
To be honest but harsh, as I think there are enough optimism as of now: These screenshots are not impressive to me at all. The borders between provinces are once again edgy, randomized and not accurate. The colouring might be easy to fix (avoid purple and especially pink, concentrate on flagbased colours), just don't forget to actually do it, and remember to make them distinguishable to colourblind people, because you do have some loyal customers that are actually colourblind, that I know of. I remember the alpha pictures for EU3 which had similar problems, which were not less impressive than these pictures, and those problems were not fixed in the later stage of development either, not even after two expansions.


Hmm.. I were really optimistic but when i had a closer look on the provinces they does look randomized. Much more then i any other paradox game... :(
 

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Samilou said:
To be honest but harsh, as I think there are enough optimism as of now: These screenshots are not impressive to me at all. The borders between provinces are once again edgy, randomized and not accurate. The colouring might be easy to fix (avoid purple and especially pink, concentrate on flagbased colours), just don't forget to actually do it, and remember to make them distinguishable to colourblind people, because you do have some loyal customers that are actually colourblind, that I know of. I remember the alpha pictures for EU3 which had similar problems, which were not less impressive than these pictures, and those problems were not fixed in the later stage of development either, not even after two expansions.

Very well, however they still seem to be pretty accurate. More accurate than Hoi2 of course. And it's still an Alpha naturally. PLus Johan said he'd straighten up things. For now i want more provinces more than accurate borders.
 

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seboden said:
Also curious if there will be anything like the outliner from EU3 in the game. In my opinion that was very helpful.

I've just purchased EU3 and Sins of a Solar Empire has a similar gadget that is quite useful. Not that I really played the latter too much - terrible voice acting and ships built in seconds....huh? Anyway, I digress...It's a good tool. Much better than the endless & useless HoI2 lists.

Edit: However, will such a thing as an outliner be as useful with such large quantities of units? Perhaps if it displays a tree like hierarchical structure.
 

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seboden said:
Might be used to access the ledger? But then I still don't understand the use of the iron cross. Although that symbol would probably change according to which nation you play.

May be the button where you can see the missions of each country.
 

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Cant say as I like the second screenie...far too many straight lines... it makes the 'board' look budget.
 

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Cortes_R said:
No... not those EU3 rectangular borders again, just tell me it`s because of it being alpha :eek:
The Rome borders are pretty smooth, so hopefully that's how the borders will look like when the game is finished. Then again the HoI-series always had the provinces with the most straight lines for borders (excluding EUIII)... I'm still hopeful, though. :)
 

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Lucky said:
Weren't Rome's borders smooth only because the map wasn't flat though?
That might be the case (I only based my assumption on screenshots I'd seen), though I'd still be happy even if they didn't make smoother borders.
 

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The question is, why did they take a step backwards? The map looks terrible when it's flat...
 

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Oh, god. The United States borders, particularly that of Maine, are making me feel like a crazed Balkan nationalist! :p

Seriously though, the political map looks good, better then I was expecting. Much less like a 'game' map and more like a 'real' one.
 

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I just hope my computer runs it. Otherwise, HoI3 will be at least 500€ more expensive to me :(
 

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Without dwelling on the details, like so many seem want to do, my initial impression of the screenshots is very favorable. The style is great, from the terrain detail to the zoomed out political maps. I was pretty skeptical about the EU3 engine's use for a new HoI game, but it looks like things are on the right track.