Oathbreaking

[olvirki]

It would be nice if CK2 allowed more oath breaking. Maybe similar to how things were done in Ck1.

"My liege, you are at war over the french crown, yet again, and want me to fulfil my feudal oath and loan you my troops ? Nah.. think we stay home on this one".

Or:

"Honourable vassal, what is his name again, I was horrified over the news that the Norsemen have attacked your holdings in Orkeney, make sure you spell it right, and I am sure you have the greatest ally there can be, God, by your side".

These sorts of oathbreaking would obviously have serious repercussions (caeos bellis and/or prestige penalties and/or such), and perhaps laws should effect the consequences, but it would be fun if that is something you have to fulfil, instead of it happening automaticly. And in some cases it would be preferable to break the feudal oath by ignoring it without having to f.e. actually rebel against the crown.

I f.e. have a little CK1 game on the side where I am playing with the idea of ignoring the kings calls to arms because of the immense cost of me going to his aid and he punishing me.

This is maybe not possible until CK3.

I also wonder if defacto oathbreaking would be possible. You can f.e. answer a call to arms by an ally and then don't do anything. Wonder the game can punish you, by f.e. looking at war contribution, for not helping enough.

 

[Rags17]

I posted a suggestion a few months back where each leaders warscore should be compared to their levy contribution to determine the actual Prestige gain and opinion bonus or malus for their contribution.

For example, you receive a call to arms from an ally but notice that the warscore is already at -60 and falling fast. A flat out refusal might net -50 prestige and maybe -30 malus, but if you join then your force of 8,000 might be 50% of the total allied force, thus you would be expected to contribute 50% of the warscore. Since the war is likely to end before you get there you may in fact stand to lose 100 prestige and -40 malus for "Insufficient Effort"

This would get rid of the old "Agree to join war but do nothing" trick, and would also allow players to get even more prestige etc if they massively outperform expectations, say by hiring mercs or holy orders.

 

[DraconicEpic]

I posted a suggestion a few months back where each leaders warscore should be compared to their levy contribution to determine the actual Prestige gain and opinion bonus or malus for their contribution.

I like the idea, but I can see it never happening. This isn't because it would be difficult to add in, but rather because I doubt CK2 could handle it. Even though they are still releasing expansions, Paradox has still yet to upgrade CK2 from 32-bit to 64-bit. As a result, there isn't enough resources to add in such features plus what ever else the game will get. Unless CK2 is updated to 64-bit, I'm going to have to give this suggestion a thumbs down.