now that we have the beautiful new remove cot tool...

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I know no new events will be added but certainly with the new cot tool some old events could be modified, ie making the holland cot delete the flanders one...also since there will be no new events maybe the breakup of the TO event could move the kourland cot to danzig...i am sure there are other places where these types of things should happen post your ideas here and hopefully they can get incorperated into the offical patch

 

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No. They would still have to translate the "Lose cot in blahblahblah" line. This tool is for the modders only.

 

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I would say Novogrod ---> Muscowy and maybe Andalusia ---> Catalonia (if it looses American Empire and / or it never forms.)

 

[Zagys]

Originally posted by Väinö I
No. They would still have to translate the "Lose cot in blahblahblah" line.

Not necessarily, it can go without saying. It would be a shame for Johan to go to all that work implementing such a feature if the vast majority of players (non-mod players) will never experience it.

 

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Originally posted by Väinö I
No. They would still have to translate the "Lose cot in blahblahblah" line. This tool is for the modders only.

As far as I know, only event text descriptions need to be translated - event commands work the same regardless of language.

Could be wrong though.

 

[Medicine Man]

I think there is currently a problem with the removecot command. In order for this event command to work, the cot must belong to the nation with the relevant event(s). In other words, if you want to remove the Flanders cot, you need to create removecot events for every person who could possibly control flanders.

It will be very hard to use this event to open and close a few key cots in Europe because of this oddity.

 

[JohnMK]

No new events sure, but existing events can be modified . . .

 

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couldn't you make it so the event removed cot for everyone it would be really really sloppy but if the events can work that way it would suffice

 

[Johan]

No.

Removecot does not check who owns the cot.

 

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just to be clear that was no to medicine man's claim? so it then should be easy to modify the preexisting events as originally described?

edit : and i love the RJ references Johan they are a great series of books

 

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I think most events work like that. For example, you cant change population, religion, add manufacturies change cultures, etc in provinces the country the event belongs to doesnt own.

For example again: if Granada still exists when Spain has the event to expel the moors, the provinces stay berber and sunni.

(right?)

As for remove CoT, in most cases its going to be just a few people

antwerp is always austria, spain, or france. It should probably be removed in the dutch independence event.

 

[Garbon]

Originally posted by Jaron

For example again: if Granada still exists when Spain has the event to expel the moors, the provinces stay berber and sunni.

(right?)

Actually:

Originally posted by Isaac Brock
Spanish events will change the culture and religion even if they don't own the province

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47114

Maybe its changed since then?

 

[Uggh]

Originally posted by Garbon

Maybe its changed since then?

It definitely has changed. I'm just playing Portugal and could see the event happening in the protocol, with all the resulting events in northern Africa, too. But the provinces in question, which I already owned, didn't change.
In contrast, Andalusia CoT was created, dispite the fact, that it was mine and not spanish.

 

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I have seen this in an MP game. The other player was Ottoman empire and had conquered the muslim parts of Iberia ( andalusia, murcia(?), gibralter, granada). When the event came for spain to expel the moors, the provinces did NOT change, however a new CoT did open in andalusia.

 

[Schaksen]

In the spanish event, as far as i remember it cannot change the religion if the provinces aren't owned. But it changes the culture, and the removecot removes the COT even if it isn't owned!

 

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I think the culture and religion event commands were altered after that previous statement was written. Look at later readme files... I think they can no longer change provinces not owned by the target country of the event, although I know for a fact that one or both of them previously could.

As for removecot, the only place I can see it being worked into *existing* events would be in the cases of Flanders. I can *totally* see the Flanders COT being closed when the Holland one opens (same event). Also, if I recall there's a Chinese event that creates a new COT in the south, while there's already 2 other ones in China... maybe a case could be made there as well.

 

[Medicine Man]

Originally posted by Becephalus
just to be clear that was no to medicine man's claim? so it then should be easy to modify the preexisting events as originally described?

That's right, I was mistaken. There was a crash bug with the removecot command but it has since been fixed.

 

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Originally posted by Becephalus
couldn't you make it so the event removed cot for everyone it would be really really sloppy but if the events can work that way it would suffice

Use the 'province' rather than country, and the event will fire for whoever owns the province.

My statement was for 1.05. The cot command still works for anyone, not just the owner, but the culture change is fixed.