nov 18 beta: Hey, he doesn't out-rank me!!!

[brifbates]

So, I (Duke of Brandenburg) happily joined in when KoG etc. declared war on Mecklemburg. Things were going reasonably well for me when the Duke of Saxony, who was getting a little beat up, made peace with Meck. All of a sudden my 90% complete seige goes away and all I can do is trundle back home cursing Saxon wusses...

I thought only your liege (and his if applicable) could force you to peace.

bri


note: tried a re-load and the same thing happened again

 

[Grosshaus]

Could you tell a bit more on the alliances and vassalships involved?

 

[brifbates]

Saxony: allied w/ Lower Lorraine, vassal of KoG, liege of Oldenburg, Osnabruck, Bremen, Munster

KoG: allied w/ France, liege of D-Saxony, D-Brandenburg, and a pile of others

Brandenburg (me): vassal of KoG, liege of Anhalt, own Brandenburg & Altmark

Mecklemberg: allied w/ Yatviags & Pommeranians

At start of a save I have KoG, Sax, & Lower Lorraine are at war w/ Meck. Not wanting liege to grab my troops and seeing a chance to grab the eastern Meck provinces while they go after the big 2, I DOW Meck. Yatviags & Pomms know DOWing me means tangling w/ KoG & France and want none of that so they do nothing. I invade Werle while Meck army tangles w/ Saxons & Germans in Luneburg. Meck army loses and runs, soon thereafter they buy off Saxony and I go to peace with Meck. KoG, however, is still at war w/ Meck and their courtier continues my seige in Werle.

bri

note: pic below is from a re-run of the incident from a save I have and shows immediate aftermath of Sax going to peace

 

[Havard]

So, I (Duke of Brandenburg) happily joined in when KoG etc. declared war on Mecklemburg. Things were going reasonably well for me when the Duke of Saxony, who was getting a little beat up, made peace with Meck. All of a sudden my 90% complete seige goes away and all I can do is trundle back home cursing Saxon wusses...

I thought only your liege (and his if applicable) could force you to peace.

bri

Are you sure it wasn't the King who signed peace?

Edit: from your second post they apepears to have continued the war, right?

 

[brifbates]

Are you sure it wasn't the King who signed peace?

Edit: from your second post they apepears to have continued the war, right?

Yeah, KoG continued the war. The first 2 times it happened you could see the German armies fighting Meck as my independant seige stopped, also, the first time I thought it was KoG so I looked to see what he got out of it in the message pane and there was no KoG peace entry, only the Saxony one.

bri

 

[awil]

this happened to me aswell with the latest beta patch..(i'm currently away so i cant check the facts, but i'm confident i'm not including anything false in this post)
i was playing as duke of dauphine, a vassal of the King of Germany
and as my loyalty was low i had allied with a bunch including the duke of milano(who also was a vassal of the KoG (or atleast i think he was))
i noticed that the duchy of krain(i think) with a couple of vassals(bishopric of padua and something else) were no longer part of germany(i cannot say if they were at war with the KoG...)

so i declared war, sieged the closest province when bam! i was no longer at war with 'em.
i checked the log and reloaded a couple of times and as best i can say this is what happened(a quote from the log, edited to remove various things happening in unrelated areas):
We liberated the province of Padua from Bishopric of Padua
Guglielmo Duke of Milano accepted peace with Maslaw Bishop of Padua on the following terms : Maslaw Bishop of Padua paid 3 $ in indemnities.

so i was bound by a truce signed by my ally/a equal level vassal of my liege
[you are supposed to give additional evidence to bug sightings that arent classified as bugs/wads/etc right? (such as this one?)]

 

[unmerged(28030)]

so i was bound by a truce signed by my ally/a equal level vassal of my liege?

Yes, I'm sure you recounted it correctly. It's nothing to do with your alliances. When your co-vassal makes peace, you are forced into peace as well.

I posted about it too in the thread spontaneous peace (It's been a month ago.) It's happened to me more than once, and I can reproduce it exactly from my saved game. Hopefully I will eventually have the pleasure of seeing BUG prefixed to one or the other of these threads.