Not sure what to say...

[maquis196]

Afternoon all, I've never complained in this forum, and even this im not sure is a complaint but the following happened... I finally won a war with Novgorod (I say finally because I had to divert to kill some Swedish Rebels on the mainlain).

Anyhoo. As the following pic shows, the day, and I do mean DAY after I win the war (vassalising Novgorod), 45 rebels spawned in my new vassal territory. Thats right 45, the number isn't a big concern, nothing I can't handle over 4/5 fights sure... my issue is, it happened the moment I got peace. So my units which were spaced out to avoid attrition basically got stack wiped.

http://imgur.com/07euKg4

So yeah, erm, isn't there some way to show this would happen the moment I got peace (which I could plan for), or maybe they would be neutral to me since its their goverment theyre fighting or I dunno something.

Its not exactly 1700AD with my game in the balance, but that army was about to vassalise Finland before they themselves are taken out by Sweden. So this game is very close to be screwed over this.

Glad thats off my chest. How on earth do they get that many rebels anyway, Novgorod is tiny now, "Force limits" they say.... Almost like they got 2 seperate rebellions at once, let me go check.

 

[maquis196]

Yeah, what spawned on the first day of peace was; Finnish rebels, Russian Rebels and Novgorod Nationalists.

Yay, 3 sodding rebels on day 1 of peace. Seriously?

 

[Secuter]

While some Rebels benefitted and was balanced by the new system, other rebels (instant rebels with no reason) is not balanced at all. Take Japan as an example. Catholic provinces spawning 40k+ rebels out of nowhere from provinces with no risk of rebels..

 

[maquis196]

Well another update, it seems I occidentally annexed Novgorod, not vassalised them. I dunno how that happened, im sure I had vassalise selected. Clearly not. Still, day 1 rebels in territory Ive just taken. Come on.

 

[Secuter]

Well another update, it seems I occidentally annexed Novgorod, not vassalised them. I dunno how that happened, im sure I had vassalise selected. Clearly not. Still, day 1 rebels in territory Ive just taken. Come on.

Indeed. I believe that the system should as follows - the number of provinces supporting the rebels should be able to give them an amount of rebels each. This means that if 50 rich provinces wants to form a nation themselfs, yes then they will spawn some rather big stacks, and a number of smaller stacks. If there's only 1 poor province supporting rebels, well, then they should only spawn some 5k or max 8k rebels.

 

[maquis196]

Well the strange thing is, that after I was stacked wiped and I spent a good chunk of my MP to rebuild my army, but that was my only problem. I created a Novgorod vassel and the Russian patriots are now just sitting there doing nothing, the Finnish ones couldn't finish their sieges before I took Finland as a vassal, and I killed the peasants in Kola. So end result was about 55 rebels spawned the day after I got the territory which is just a load of rubbish tbh.

But game not over yet, but the coalition of Sweden and Muscovy will hurt one day I'm sure! So yeah Wiz, if I'm lucky enough you read this, something isn't quite right dude