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swilhelm73

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Efficiency numbers - have they been verified

So I normally don't pay close attention to the effiency modifers, as I imagine is true of almost everyone who plays the game since there are so many of them.

I was plaing SPR in the SCW, and was attacked across a the river from Pamplona to Zaragoza by 3 INF against my one defending INF.

I didn't think much of it since the mods coming into play; river, mountains, and rain, guaranteed an easy victory for me...but then after finishing a few other things, I focused on this battle, seeing I was losing badly.

I checked the attacker's eff: 80!!!

Now, the modifiers they had are -50% for river, -40% for mountain, -10% for rain, so they should have been at 1% with the 100% penalty, right? There leader had no special ability, and they were just regular inf - not mt or eng.

Even if modifiers are multiplictive and not additive, their penalty should have been 73%, giving them an eff of 27%.

Now, I am playing at VH which might modify things a bit, but who knows? So this leads me to ask - are we *sure* the modifiers are being calculated correctally???
 
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Everytime I actually look at the individual battles the numbers seem way off for the AI again, so from another battle - in the open attacking in the rain at night. -40% for Night, -10% for rain supposedly.

AI INF eff = 73 should be 50
AI MIL eff = 63 should be 50
AI ARM eff = 68 should be 50

My INF eff = 80 or 86 (one is different) should be 75
Mr ARM eff = 77 should be 75

Now during the day, still rain

AI INF eff = 123 should be 90
AI MIL eff = 113 should be 90
AI ARM eff = 118 should be 90

My INF eff = 105 or 111 (one is different) should be 100
Mr ARM eff = 102 should be 100
 

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Hmm, it looks to me like you are focusing on 100% efficiency as the starting point but often it's higher than that. Was there an enemy field marshal? What leaders were involved (ie special traits and skill levels)? Tech levels? As you say the diff. level may also have affected this. You may need to save mid-battle and switch sides to check all the factors.

FWIW I seem to recall seeing that night mods in the game are higher than in the manual, at least if you don't have any techs at all.
 

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Though I didn't see an FM in combat, there could have been one near by.

So what are the default eff numbers I should have been expecting if not 100?