NOT A BUG: AI Nations Not Sharing Technology

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AI Nations Not Sharing Technology

This one is easy to see - start up a game as Germany in 1941. Although Italy has an ideological crusader foreign minister (free tech sharing) and quite a few techs that Germany needs, they simply won't give them.

Why? Italy should be spreading those techs across the entire axis as fast as possible, since it is, afterall, free. If the allies did this, perhaps we'd finally see South Africa or even New Zealand field a useful unit, rather than just being some island nation waiting to be conqured.

 

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When playing Germany (Stony Road mod), my axis friends allways share tech with me. Even when I thought I was leading in Armour Tech, Finland surprised me giving me the concept of Improved Heavy Armor... Needless to say I was quite speechless.

 

[Vulture]

They *DO* share techs, can't reproduce

 

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Surely they don't share them weekly... Which they absolutely should be doing if it's for free.

Simply look at the tech level new zealand has by the end of the game, it's almost never anywhere near that of Britain.

 

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Originally posted by YokoZar
Surely they don't share them weekly... Which they absolutely should be doing if it's for free.

Simply look at the tech level new zealand has by the end of the game, it's almost never anywhere near that of Britain.

And rightfully so... They weren't either IRL But you are prolly right in that aspect that they should share a bit more often

 

[Hartmann]

If at all, then there's rather too much sharing going on for my taste. In my last game as Hungary, I could always rely that someone of my Axis buddies would give me a nice expensive tech every once in a while.

Hartmann

 

[Vulture]

Well in my games, I always get techs I don't really need Naval Doctrines as Germany for example But of course, that's prolly because I was way ahead in the other fields

 

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The point of more complete tech sharing is to make the really minor (particularly allied) nations actually useful. When was the last time you saw New Zealand with the technology to actually field something worth controlling?

If humans with ideological crusaders are going to be sharing tech all willy-nilly, then the AI should too.

 

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The way the game works now is stupid. If it was possible it would actually be in the allies best interest Declare war on New Zealand and have the USA annex them. New Zealands lack of technology makes them totally worthless as an ally.

Just look at Germany. It is ALWAYS better for them to kill and annex Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria etc, rather then ally with them. This is due to a lack of tech sharing by the AI.

 

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Originally posted by Brock Landers
......New Zealands lack of technology makes them totally worthless as an ally....

Hmm, youre probably right in game terms. And I agree with you to a certain point.

Ive seen Canada take over Portugal and Nth Africa (V France). This was useful as UK, as Portugal was being a nuisance in Africa, even managing to land on undefended Belfast in one game. They lost it in a week though! I havent seen New Zealand do that much in the game, except defend and atk the Jpnese in the pacific.

But IRL, if youre island is about to be invaded by the most powerful armed force that had been formed at the time, Id better that if you werent trying to negotiate peace, youd be getting ready to fight them. To do this would it be pausible that you wouldb be trying to find whatever allies you could in whatever form they could be found in? Especially, if they were/are part of your commonwealth!

BTW, my opinion of the tech sharing is the same as you guys, it doesnt work that well. I would like to see a more complicated system, where allies could plot a web of tech research paths across all the countries in your allinace (would be good for MP). This way one country could focus on 2 or 3 branch, while others with less IC for research could focus on one branch.

Further to this, I would like to see sharing actually be that. If I had 4 or 5 allies, and I discovered the Spitefire, I would want all of them to get it, in one session. Not have to plan 5 individual sets of meeting to pass on the information. What the ..ell are conferences for?

Anyways, back to battle!

 

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Originally posted by 2Coats
BTW, my opinion of the tech sharing is the same as you guys, it doesnt work that well. I would like to see a more complicated system, where allies could plot a web of tech research paths across all the countries in your allinace (would be good for MP). This way one country could focus on 2 or 3 branch, while others with less IC for research could focus on one branch. [/B]

This can already be implemented, actually. The AI files have preferences for researching various techs already - you could turn it down to 0 in some areas for specific allies and try and narrow out the differences. This has the interesting side effect of a few types of research being done exclusively by particular countries (specialization), and AI events would have to trigger in case that country was killed or something (though probably not totally necessary.) Essentially, you could have England do most of the naval research while south africa did submarines and canada did infantry and australia did planes, for example.

The only thing stopping that from working now is the reluctance of allied nations to share techs with one another.