Norwegian woods achievement

[anomalacaris]

It seem really hard to be honest, having to conquer territory off countries everywhere, not to mention the occasional colony goods.
Although interior China and Himalayas may not be that bad, having to tackle France, Ottomans, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Hungary and countries in the HRE (including one in Bohemia) for those naval supplies sounds rather insane given Norway's not-so-splendid starting positions.

How's people fairing with this achievement in 1.2? Would migrating over to Americas be the best strategy?

 

[DDRJake]

I've not tried it, but I cannot imagine a better strategy then sealing off all of the Americas ASAP, colonising every province where naval goods are a potential naval supplies point then cherry-picking all the provinces. It would be hell, all that disconnected land...

 

[maquis196]

You'll have to colonise like crazy, and as soon as the PU breaks up, try and start working on integrating some big European power (especially a coloniser to nick their colonies).

I will do this one day, but seems insanely hard, you have to essentially grab what you can all the way to Australia, sooner or later conquer Spains territories (always one or two naval supplies in south america, often the falklands). Maybe trying to integrate Russia? As you say, its those random ones all over the place that suck, stability isn't for you!

 

[Oddb@ll]

Just do a wc as Norway, saves a lot of micro

 

[Xara]

I wouldn't even bother until some sort of "list provinces by item produced" is a possibility
Wouldn't you just love getting to 1811 to find out some doofus colonized the ass-end of some island chain and popped naval goods there?

 

[bleakie]

I am afraid that killing the colonizers early is a necessity for the achievement. Lucky (Unlucky?) that England is easily reachable by Orkney.

 

[zodium]

Yeah, the way to get this is probably PU England/Spain/Portugal, dominate France and reach the Atlantic by way of North America before the Russians do. It's doable, but not reliably.

 

[LarryLeica]

Absolutely horrible achievement without a trade goods map mode. Gave up trying to get it until there's at least a useful mapmode in the game that saves endless clicking provinces and either writing down the goods there or having a really good memory.

 

[coldsteel]

I wouldn't even bother until some sort of "list provinces by item produced" is a possibility

Yup, that's what I thought too. It seems incredibly difficult to even as much as locate all the provinces, let alone conquer them!

 

[Wombat101]

I've been working on this one a lot since 1.2 with little luck. I think conquering the colonizers is the ideal way to go but that's easier said than done since Norway starts in PU. I've even gone as far as to build up relationship with England, Portugal and Castile and declare independence just so I could get a royal marriage with them. Apparently you keep the RM even thiugh Denmark puts me back in my place. Unfortunately it costs a ton of prestige and some territories to accomplish this. Trying to decide if its worth it or to try to get in to one of there dynasties this early. But I figure the earlier the best chance there is.

If Denmark wouldnt ally up with Lithuania the moment I declare independence there'd at least be a chance to staying seperate. I just wishd there was some peace deal where you swap territory but keep your independence like in 1.1

 

[Johan]

I wouldn't even bother until some sort of "list provinces by item produced" is a possibility
Wouldn't you just love getting to 1811 to find out some doofus colonized the ass-end of some island chain and popped naval goods there?

1.3 will have a new ledger page for all tradegoods and their locations you know about.

 

[anomalacaris]

1.3 will have a new ledger page for all tradegoods and their locations you know about.

Nice! I would prefer a full map mode, but this will definitely help nailing down the colonies

 

[Evil4Zerggin]

Nice! I would prefer a full map mode, but this will definitely help nailing down the colonies

Until then, have this map: http://eu4wiki.com/File:Trade_good_icon_map_double.png

 

[bleakie]

So the naval supplies provinces are mostly coastal, with the exception of Carpathia, Scandinavia and Northern Russia (and the New World, of course).

 

[PAnZuRiEL]

Until then, have this map: http://eu4wiki.com/File:Trade_good_icon_map_double.png

I thought colony trade goods were random?

 

[KaiserJohanHome]

Awesome!

 

[Illanair]

I thought colony trade goods were random?

They are - That map is largely useless. Only in provinces that exist at gamestart are goods pre-defined. Everywhere else the game uses a table and rolls a result - even for the Portoguese and Castillean colonies off of Europe.

 

[Evil4Zerggin]

I thought colony trade goods were random?

Some provinces have goods defined at later starts when they are colonized.

 

[bleakie]

I forgot to add that you have to conquer all the fur provinces as well...
Because there is an event that converts the goods for fur provinces to grain or naval supplies according to the owner's choice.

 

[hwoosh]

They are - That map is largely useless. Only in provinces that exist at gamestart are goods pre-defined. Everywhere else the game uses a table and rolls a result - even for the Portoguese and Castillean colonies off of Europe.

Be fair: the map is quite useful insofar as, before it was made, we had no way of viewing the predetermined trade goods at a glance. And we should respect the immense slogging effort that went into creating it.