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Alright so it's 1863 I've crushed Denmark took schwesvig (ik I spelt that wrong) and Holstein and I just need Saxony but the thing is that Austria and France are allied to each other and every time I get crushed by the double alliance and my GP allies refuse to join so pls help
 

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You dont need to fight them, use your diplomatic influence. Austria eventually gives up. Also, in your instance..a double front war should focus on Austria first..crush them..France can be dealt with later. But it sounds like you are trying to fight hegemony wars, not annexation wars.
 

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Normally, the AI loves to throw "Discredits" at you, any time you start influencing a sphere member of theirs or one of their own targets. That essentially "wastes" 25 Influence points with no LONG TERM consequences to you, merely a 6 month delay while you do something else instead (unless you're REALLY close to kicking them out, in which case it may pay to suffer the penalty and continue). Sometimes, it pays to wait until your rival is in an Influence duel with some other power over another country, and then make you own move. If not, draw their Discredit, then start influencing another country in their sphere, so they concentrate on that instead of replacing the 25 Influence. 6 months later, you've got a free shot at boosting your own Influence until they can rebuild enough of their own for another Discredit.If you manage to knock Saxony out of Austria's sphere, Austria often (not always) gives up the Influence-pissing contest. Try not to allow them to build up 50 or 65 points of Influence, by distracting their attention elsewhere, otherwise they can throw nastier stuff than Discredits.

Once you achieve control, build up 65 points, which can be used to BAN a threatening rival for a year. Normally, I'll let a rival get up to at least 80-90 points of the 100 needed to kick me out of control, and THEN ban them. It costs me 65 points to ban them, and they lose 80-90 points, and can't even begin to rebuild those for another year. Hopefully, they'll use that time to bug one of your other rivals. As long as you're not ACTIVELY putting Influence points into a country, the AI will ignore you, so that's exploitable. There's also a tech that increases your rate of Influence, which is a major help to Prussia in particular.

As said in previous posts, you don't really NEED to fight any wars to form the North German Federation, and don't need to fight at all until you take Alsace-Lorraine from France to form Germany, although an early war against Denmark can net you the entire peninsula, leaving Denmark with a few islands, and you've got ages to burn off the Infamy. The rest can all be done diplomatically. Try playing it as a diplomatic/economic game first, and a war game second, and it's a lot easier. Peace and prosperity beats ending up with a war-torn country that managed to grab some small patch of land with a hostile population and no important resources. Save MOST of your wars for colonial conquests of uncivilized countries, which cost you less Infamy and are far less destructive to your own population. It's primarily about the balance of power and influence in Europe between the leading countries, so you need alliances of your own and sphered countries to compete against the coalitions that will form against you. Taking on the rest of the world solo is definitely doing it the hard way.
 
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Thanks I'll try that out and I'm actually allies to GB so I might try and to call them in the war
Sadly, GB is probably the least reliable ally in most wars. Either they refuse to join, or they don't contribute land troops, although they often wreck the opposing navy and blockade ports. In a FEW cases, they've landed troops (in France) and contributed substantially to the war, although by the time they did so the worst of the fighting was already over. In ONE case, France invaded them, and occupied provinces in the British Isles, but at least those French troops weren't fighting me.

I've allied Spain (difficult at the start, but often possible a few years in), and having Belgium as a distraction can help occupy some French troops while you take out the rest. Allying with (or sphering, later in the game) the Ottomans, soaks up some Russian troops for a while. Basically, the more allies and sphered countries you can surround your opponents with, the less troops they have to dedicate to dealing with you.

A little trick: sometimes I'll send an army without a general ahead, and use them to engage the enemy. Depending on whether it's an offensive or defensive engagement, my SECOND stack to arrive will have the appropriate general, whose skills will be applied to the entire combat from that point on. I usually keep a maneuver general nearby or committed to the fight, to chase down routing enemy stacks after the battle. The stacks you chase down and destroy will take a long time to replace. Those you demoralize and drive off are likely to be back in action later in the war. If you need to mobilize, your Militia will be weak cannon-fodder. I use mine for sieging (sometimes attaching a single cavalry unit and Engineers to speed up the siege), while the Regular troops do the fighting. Sending your Militia into battle loses a lot of manpower for your country, usually without a lot to show for it.
 
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Well I had decided to restart as Prussia and I had watched sheenrys video on how to win as Germany and so I did what the video said (in partial success) with Austria still managing to Catch up to me and than a crisis had happened and Austria got recked by Russia so I took the chance and declared war and it worked out pretty well but I will be sure to use this advice when I play as Germany again thanks ^^
 

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S.... In a FEW cases, they've landed troops (in France)....

It happens regularly with HoD that they invade.
Naval landings elsewhere than France still take longer, but they do happen.
You played too long without HoD. :p
 

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Alright so it's 1863 I've crushed Denmark took schwesvig (ik I spelt that wrong) and Holstein and I just need Saxony but the thing is that Austria and France are allied to each other and every time I get crushed by the double alliance and my GP allies refuse to join so pls help

So you didn´t provide us (or me at least) enough information, but I played last time Prussia with my noobish experience (lets say I knew the game, but I was just unable to win any bigger war, so... not great). In my game manage to create Super-Germany and I was literally unstoppable - until I realized that I made mistake with getting over Infamy limit way too soon, so no GP want Alliance with me. Problem wasn´t that I need GP ally because I was too weak, but I need them to create Great War and could expand that way (less infamy for wargoals). But that is something different.

First of all - what is your Army tech. You are Prussia so you need as much Mil Tech as possible. Army Doctrine for Defense, Light Armanent for First line and Heavy Armanent for Support. Other 2 tech columns are nice to have, but not so important for now (but Organisation is nice to have).

Next - because of cca 30 supply limits in early-game your army should contain only 10 regiments (you can get more by Industry/Chemistry Techs), so create as much regiments as you can. They should contain 1 Hussar (because Recon and best stats from all cavalry), 1 Engineer (because Siege), 4 Infantry and 4 Artillery. This will be backbone of your armies for a while (until 1919 :-D).

Don´t forget set your Focus on Soldiers in most populous states, it will create great military power base (5% per state is effective maximum I get).

For the next step see notes under picture:

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Deploy on every province neighbouring with France and Austria (or Saxony, it depends who will be your enemy) your regiments, which create "frontline". Any spared regiments place on "second line provinces". For my example - I have frontline with France and backup line. If France decide to attack my army in Metz (because AI thinks it can outnumber my 30k stack), I just simple can send there my "reinforcements" from 3 neighbouring provincies + I can fill the gap in Strassbourg which I create. Dont be scared, if France attacks first, they have to deal with Dig bonus you had from Army Doctrine Tech. You can easily win 3-4 big battles, which give you 50 warscore (maximum) and you can actually force your peace deals on your enemies (or they will offer you that peace offer). Only what you need is to be patient in war. Dont be scares by big enemy stacks, in later phases of war it will be most likely only mobilized units (farmers) and your regulars can kill them in thousands...

After successfull battle check your stacked armies, and those with big casualties just send to the second line to reinforce.

That´s pretty much all you need. At least in my case it helped me to win every war I was facing. Even French-Italian-Russian Aliance can´t defeat me.

One note: If you are looking for creating Super-Germany, you need first to force Austria to "Free People of Hungarian" - if Hungary (at least one province) exists and Austria is in your Sphere, you can get event where Austria want to join your empire.
 
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Couldn't you just attack Saxony directly though?
Austria would be able to intervene, but I'm not sure they'd be able to call France in.
Downside obviously being the infamy there, wasting the free hegemony CB.

Alternatively, you could attack a French sphere with the lowest infamy CB, then annex Alsace.
That'd allow you to freely attack Austria and form greater Germany.
But again not sure if France would be able to call Austria in.