Noob Demo Question Re: Poland and Gavelkind

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I am playing the demo as the Polish King, and gavelkind is the inheritance type.

I spend the majority of my money on the development key towns/cities/churches in 2 counties that are part of my demesne.
I am then lucky enough to have several kids….after the 2nd or 3rd male, not sure, I received a notice that the title for one of those *developed* counties would not go to my heir. One of the providences I spent building up would be going to a potential future rival hmy:. I thought about simply granting these titles to my primary heir, but I need them for the money and levies now.
Is there a way to determine how gavelkind divides up the estate? If not directly are there any ideas how this could be accomplished indirectly :unsure:? Can I grant lesser valuable counties to my other children proactively? Should I strive to keep Duchy’s and counties “whole”

I welcome your thoughts…..regardless, it is a cool game mechanic .

 

[Darrigan]

You can't manually decide what county or duchy goes to whom. I've dreamed of it, but in the end I'm quite happy with how the game 'calculates' it.
One trick is to make sure to have your entire power base in one de jure duchy. If you then manage to gain another duchy, your second son will get this 'secondary' duchy and all the counties in it, while your first son will get the 'primary' duchy with everything in it.

When you get a third son, he will inherit a county within one of the duchies you own. So you again risk losing one of your precious counties. Best way to solve that is by conquering a new duchy... You basically need one duchy (+ at least one corresponding county) per legal son to be sure...

 

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Great explanation, thank you! I will try the Duchy trick, and like I said, I do like the mechanic. It really can lay the seeds for some *intriguing* situations .

 

[Pode]

Or free investiture. Appoint non-heir sons to be successors to bishoprics. Once they take the cloth they're out of the succession order. Occassionally a bishop may need to have an accident, but so long as you match oldest non-heir son to oldest bishop it should work out most times.

 

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This is a good idea as well…..I assume you mean a bishopric in my “control”?
I see….the important point being the fact that he has to take the vows and can’t inherit.
I guess, assigning a Barony to a potential heir just adds to their potential assets, and will not prevent them from inheriting additional titles.

 

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One trick is to make sure to have your entire power base in one de jure duchy. If you then manage to gain another duchy, your second son will get this 'secondary' duchy and all the counties in it, while your first son will get the 'primary' duchy with everything in it.

Darrigan, in your reply you mention that the primary Duchy should be a De jour (sp?) Duchy……is this a condition that needs to be met to keep a core set of counties under the control of the primary heir (3rd son withstanding)? …..or can this be accomplished with the “capital “ Duchy that is your initial “title”?
…not sure if I am making this question clear.

 

[Featauril]

De Jour (french) : of day, doesent really mean anything
De Jure (latin) : of law, as opposed to "De facto" : of fact

 

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Ahhhh!.....So technically my existing Duchy is really “De jour” while the historical is “De Jure”