Hi, any one knows how to build hospitals with Horde-nomads?, is a tec for them? i can build tradepost, but nop hospital 
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Nomads Hospital?
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I'd tend to agree, it'd be a bit strange for a nomad horde to have a fully functioning medieval hospital.
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"On my travels to the far East, I saw a Hospice bed being dragged along the steppe-land by two strong-backed mares, being led by a strangely attired horseman. On pointing out that his bed would function much better with but two wheels affixed to the rear legs, not unlike a Chariot of Britonnic design, he cursed at me in his gibbering tongue and lashed out with a broad saber! The three weeks spent recovering on said bed were a godsend, I would surely have perished otherwise in that bleak landscape."
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I don't argue that there were quite advanced medical treatments that the Mongols had (I assume that quote is from Marco Polo?) , but I don't think they had the capacity to deal efficiently with large populations of diseased people. I could be wrong, but either way I think that the mechanics of the game mean that it should be something for nomad capital holdings, and not something they should be able to build in every province.
Right, something like the hospice beds as a building for the nomad capital would better represent the way they're constantly moving. The hospital itself is meant to be a permanent building, something nomads would have no use for.
Yeah, that would be a good building for the capital. I wouldn't be surprised if something like that isn't in the first post-DLC patch.
Ooh, yeah, that's a great idea. I don't have anything to add here - adding some disease resistance building to Nomad capitals would be absolutely brilliant.
I really, really hope Paradox sees this. It wouldn't be very hard to add a couple of buildings, a content designer could paste stuff over and have a few ranks of it done in half an hour.
I really, really hope Paradox sees this. It wouldn't be very hard to add a couple of buildings, a content designer could paste stuff over and have a few ranks of it done in half an hour.
Honestly, I wouldn't believe a single word what Marco Polo says, he is making stuff up. He is not a good honest writer but good fantasy novelist.
Another BS entry from his novel about Hassan-i Sabbah
... He had caused a certain valley between two mountains to be enclosed, and had turned it into a garden, the largest and most beautiful that ever was seen, filled with every variety of fruit. In it were erected pavilions and palaces the most elegant that can be imagined, all covered with gilding and exquisite painting. And there were runnels too, flowing freely with wine and milk and honey and water; and numbers of ladies and of the most beautiful damsels in the world, who could play on all manner of instruments, and sung most sweetly, and danced in a manner that it was charming to behold. For the Old Man desired to make his people believe that this was actually Paradise. So he had fashioned it after the description that Mahommet gave of his Paradise, to wit, that it should be a beautiful garden running with conduits of wine and milk and honey and water, and full of lovely women for the delectation of all its inmates. And sure enough the Saracens of those parts believed that it was Paradise!...
Utter Lie! By the time Marco Polo travels there Mongols have already razed Hassan-i Sabbah's Alamut castle left in ruin.
... He had caused a certain valley between two mountains to be enclosed, and had turned it into a garden, the largest and most beautiful that ever was seen, filled with every variety of fruit. In it were erected pavilions and palaces the most elegant that can be imagined, all covered with gilding and exquisite painting. And there were runnels too, flowing freely with wine and milk and honey and water; and numbers of ladies and of the most beautiful damsels in the world, who could play on all manner of instruments, and sung most sweetly, and danced in a manner that it was charming to behold. For the Old Man desired to make his people believe that this was actually Paradise. So he had fashioned it after the description that Mahommet gave of his Paradise, to wit, that it should be a beautiful garden running with conduits of wine and milk and honey and water, and full of lovely women for the delectation of all its inmates. And sure enough the Saracens of those parts believed that it was Paradise!...
Utter Lie! By the time Marco Polo travels there Mongols have already razed Hassan-i Sabbah's Alamut castle left in ruin.
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Nomad's and Tribal's can't build hospitals, only Feudal or Igta governments can.
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Mongols were actually pretty dirty people even in comparison to other nomads. They believed bathing in rivers and lakes was tantamount to sacrilege because water dragons lived in them. Apparently people could smell the Mongols before catching sight of them.
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That's their biological weapons. Enemies will suffer great damage from simply just smell them.
I do know Irish tribals had a forus tuaithe. A hostel built for sick people ran by the king's chief physician. But I'm ok with it not being in game.
Step #1 Surround a diseased city.
Step #2 Burn it to the ground.
Seems pretty straightforward - and Mongols were so eager to use it that in some cases no one even checked for diseases first
Now, while we can imagine a "Reasonable Hospital" - so something that does not fit nomads too well - it would also be good to remember that typical educated European would be more likely to comprehend "septon" than "septic". The list of necessities that could not be provided by nomadic civilization therefore shrinks down considerably. They should have some means to combat severe threats - and it would be even better if it was different than "feudal" govt, if only for diverse gameplay. So far, after 100+ years, my Court Physician has been constantly offering me a choice to either "Pray to Cthulhu" or to go entirely "So what, lol". The only one who has been trying to do anything was some event-born Hindu doctor - and even he has been exclusively treating/killing my subjects after I pissed him off by refusing to convert.
At the same time Hospitals, that were built by various countries my nomads trampled, are still standing. My bloodthirsty horde is so afraid of sick people that they leave them standing even if the entire provice is pillaged and grass-ified.