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Posting here because I play with CK+.

I've hit a point in my Khazar game where when my khagan dies, almost all of his land goes to a minor clan, and since that minor clan hates me (for random reasons), he then splits off from the realm. I'm not over my limit of counties - indeed, I'd say I'm under it by a good amount.

Why does this keep happening, and is there any way to avoid it? It seems like BS that a player would routinely lose the biggest chunk of their land just because of a succession.
 

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Posting here because I play with CK+.

I've hit a point in my Khazar game where when my khagan dies, almost all of his land goes to a minor clan, and since that minor clan hates me (for random reasons), he then splits off from the realm. I'm not over my limit of counties - indeed, I'd say I'm under it by a good amount.

Why does this keep happening, and is there any way to avoid it? It seems like BS that a player would routinely lose the biggest chunk of their land just because of a succession.

WAD!

Next time set nomad succession rule to stable.
 

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So I can have unrealistically stable successions or eat 10 Threat every time I have a succession. Beautiful.
 

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So I can have unrealistically stable successions or eat 10 Threat every time I have a succession. Beautiful.
So your problem is THREAT then?
That is an entirely different problem that I also had encountered upon succession with Elective Gavelkind.
Since the game currently does not take account when a vassal declares independence upon inheritance, thread does not get reduced and you will end up with more threat if you do not even change realm size with each generation.

Do I understand correctly and that is your problem? Because that would be something that can and needs to be fixed.
 

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So your problem is THREAT then?
That is an entirely different problem that I also had encountered upon succession with Elective Gavelkind.
Since the game currently does not take account when a vassal declares independence upon inheritance, thread does not get reduced and you will end up with more threat if you do not even change realm size with each generation.

Do I understand correctly and that is your problem? Because that would be something that can and needs to be fixed.

Eh, it's part of it. I can't say that I'm a fan of the minor-clan-taking-land mechanic since it doesn't seem to regard the strength of your heir or the political situation of the realm. If your clan was too large, it'd make sense. If you had a weak heir it also would. My heir was an aged military genius, though.

So I did conquer the land back, but there was no special casus belli for it... I had to use an Invasion casus belli.