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jwalche

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When you control a huge territory and hold most of them for your clan, and you have less than 8 vassal clans, a minor clan uprising will happen quickly. If your realm is large, the uprising army's size can be anywhere between 100k to 300k.

That is pretty hard to defeat, if you can defeat it at all. So you surrender. It becomes your vassal clan, with about 30~40% of the army retained.

There are many things you can do with this new vassal clan. But the best use of it, seems to me, is making it a tributary to your realm, from now to forever.

The first step is checking its location. If the clan's only and capital county is in an ideal location, close to your capital or a strong enemy that's good. If not, give it a new county. One that next to your capital but outside of your de jure capital duchy would be ideal.

Then grant independence to it. If you don't want more minor clan uprisings, spit your clan so that you can have 8 vassal clans. If you want more of them, then just leave it.

After your truce expires, either through death of a ruler or by time, send a 1000 men stack near to its capital county. But not to a border county. The AI is not stupid for this matter. If it sees your army, it will rush back to home.

Carefully wait for a chance where your army with your best organization commander can reach to its capital 2~3 days faster. Send the army, and declare a war right before crossing its border.

For CB, use the one that makes permanent tributary, instead of on that is dissolved with a ruler's death. If you want to move its capital, then you will have to just take its county and wait for the new truce to expire.

When your army reaches its capital, just storm it. It's poorly defended with maybe 20 men. Its 80k horde rushes back to home but not before you can force a surrender.

And there you go. You got a single county tributary with 30~120k doom stack that almost doesn't decay for hundreds of years, You never need to pay anything and it almost never refuses your call to wars. During peace times, it will continuously terrorize all your neighbors with 50k size raiders that is almost attrition free. Just make sure your ruler's prestige will stay positive, or else it will be set free.
 

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When you control a huge territory and hold most of them for your clan, and you have less than 8 vassal clans, a minor clan uprising will happen quickly. If your realm is large, the uprising army's size can be anywhere between 100k to 300k.

That is pretty hard to defeat, if you can defeat it at all. So you surrender. It becomes your vassal clan, with about 30~40% of the army retained.

There are many things you can do with this new vassal clan. But the best use of it, seems to me, is making it a tributary to your realm, from now to forever.

The first step is checking its location. If the clan's only and capital county is in an ideal location, close to your capital or a strong enemy that's good. If not, give it a new county. One that next to your capital but outside of your de jure capital duchy would be ideal.

Then grant independence to it. If you don't want more minor clan uprisings, spit your clan so that you can have 8 vassal clans. If you want more of them, then just leave it.

After your truce expires, either through death of a ruler or by time, send a 1000 men stack near to its capital county. But not to a border county. The AI is not stupid for this matter. If it sees your army, it will rush back to home.

Carefully wait for a chance where your army with your best organization commander can reach to its capital 2~3 days faster. Send the army, and declare a war right before crossing its border.

For CB, use the one that makes permanent tributary, instead of on that is dissolved with a ruler's death. If you want to move its capital, then you will have to just take its county and wait for the new truce to expire.

When your army reaches its capital, just storm it. It's poorly defended with maybe 20 men. Its 80k horde rushes back to home but not before you can force a surrender.

And there you go. You got a single county tributary with 30~120k doom stack that almost doesn't decay for hundreds of years, You never need to pay anything and it almost never refuses your call to wars. During peace times, it will continuously terrorize all your neighbors with 50k size raiders that is almost attrition free. Just make sure your ruler's prestige will stay positive, or else it will be set free.
Wait, I thought you couldn't call that kind of tributary to war.
 

jwalche

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Wait, I thought you couldn't call that kind of tributary to war.
Yes you can. I have called them several times. The only one that refused only once was having a own difficult war. Maybe nomad tributary is different? I didn't need legal tech to have that CB either.

They have been serving my nomad dynasty for 4 rulers now. Damn, life of nomad rulers are so short.

I don't know what will happen when I settle though.