Tbh i hate nomads in CK2 so i won't miss them. But i hope that republics will be added soon. Any news about naval combat?
No nomad gameplay, no merchant republics
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That.... is exactly the point.
Get ready to buy Sons of Abraham 2.0
Get your wallet out for Sword of Islam 2.0
It's just a DLC mill.
The base game will be... probably... something like how Imperator Rome was at launch. A skeleton of a game, barely any meat on it that you will have to feed with precious hard earned euros/dollars... glueing DLC after DLC on its white bones until it looks like Frankensteins' monster.
So they are trimming features so they can resell them to us? This is going to go over well on steam.
Also known as a successful business model that has kept Paradox profitable for the last decade.
The irony being that they haven't even dared releasing DLC for iRome yet because of all the negative feedback for it.
They just did... something with punic wars. Look it up.
EDIT: it's freeLC. thx for the info guys.
As far as I can tell that's basically a "content pack" i.e. graphics and vanity stuff, not gameplay related, but I see your point. lol this is going to go down like a lead balloon
My bad.
I have the game on ignore so I just saw in a post that they put it up and decided to say "screw it". Oh well. Thanks for correcting me.
CK2 nomads are honestly just really shoddy. The entire clan if not entire realm would follow the khan's culture and religion, which is not how nomadic societies functioned at all. They were by definition confederacies of many different tribes of differing ethnicities, using many languages and with practitioners of various religions. The Mongol Empire, for example, in fact consisted of far more than just the titular Mongols: Uyghurs, Khitans, Turks, Han Chinese... And of course Mongol rulers are famous for their religious tolerance.
While I'd prefer they rework the whole thing, I'm fine if they just leave them as normal tribals if it's impossible to do in a dynasty-based game.
While I'd prefer they rework the whole thing, I'm fine if they just leave them as normal tribals if it's impossible to do in a dynasty-based game.
Hmm, it is a pity about merchant Republics. I think about half of the full games I have played though in Crusader Kings 2 from the earliest time to the end has been as patricians. I hope Merchant republics come back sometime.
Keep in mind that even though they aren't in now, that doesn't mean they are to be paid content later. Paradox might give us mediocre republics/nomads in a later patch you need a DLC for to be great.
As long as they bring them back in a better state than ck2 I don't really care, If we get them back with more or less the same features then....
Well if they do this i'll stick to CK2 till CK3 will be as rich as current CK2. Paradox please dont do the same mistake with CK3 as you did with Imperator.
Nomads are super broken (not just overpowered, also generally just incompatible with CK2), so I'm glad they will be redone in a future DLC. Merchant Republics are ok, but they were made pretty early on and do not mesh well with mechanics added later, which became incredibly evident with Holy Fury and their interactions with enatic religions, and I would love to see their mechanics overall expanded upon anyway.
For sure there's much room for improvement over ck2's implementation of them, but I would have preferred to have seen them on release, even relatively barebones, instead of be made to pay for dlc to unlock them all over again
Agree to disagree, I guess. I would definitely prefer they spent resources in other places until they are ready to commit to making governments like Nomadic and Merchant Republic actually work. It certainly breaks my immersion to have the Khans ruling over sedentary tribes in the East, but it is not worth spending less time in other areas for a barebones placeholder.
Wow, so instead of making nomads better, they just took them out? Game's gonna be a dumpster fire.
I am fine if republics and nomads are added later in a DLC or such (CK series was always about "feudalism first"), but I still want their AI to act as threatening as historical nomads were, or CK2 nomads with expansions are.
Remember, Magyars managed to launch devastating raids all the way into Spain and southern Italy before they stopped and settled down (and created Hungary). Various nomads around Black Sea tied up a lot of Byzantine efforts. And then there is Seljuks, Mongols and Timurids.
Same for republics. They can make them playable later, but until then I want them to field huge fleets and mercenaries and attack coasts and rent out ships to crusades and jihads.
Remember, Magyars managed to launch devastating raids all the way into Spain and southern Italy before they stopped and settled down (and created Hungary). Various nomads around Black Sea tied up a lot of Byzantine efforts. And then there is Seljuks, Mongols and Timurids.
Same for republics. They can make them playable later, but until then I want them to field huge fleets and mercenaries and attack coasts and rent out ships to crusades and jihads.