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To my horror I discovered that a vassal Pope will not call for any new crusade after The Jerusalem kingdom has been formed and there are no more European pagans/muslims. In my last game more than 80 years have passed since the last call and now I noticed that 'local' crusades can be called but they only last for...ONE DAY!! :eek::confused:

The day immediately after the call the Pope himself removes it and blames everyone for this failure...o_O:eek::confused:

I tried it over and over for more than 20 years, but to no avail. I don't have the Holy Grail and the Pope is my vassal. I read on a thread that only independent popes can call for crusades so now I can understand why there were no 'global' crusades. But what about the local ones? Why aren't they allowed?

Additionally, I can't offer the pope to be independent anymore!!! :eek::confused:o_O What's the point of stopping all possible crusades? :(
 

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People probably do not take a subordinate pope seriously enghout to join his crusade.
 

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that's weird, my pope has been my vassal for centuries and still calls crusades every 30 years
 

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Vassal Popes can call Crusades, though disabling external vassal wars may change things. That at least removes the option to request Crusades according to the Wiki:

If the Pope is a vassal, the liege has to allow external Vassal Wars for the option to appear.
 

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There's still the event Crusades if you have the right DLC (Northern and Reconquista at least. Maybe not the Fourth if Jerusalem has been taken). I don't think anything much stops those firing, even being massively overpowered. Unless you happen to have removed them as valid targets by converting them.

I'd expect that any Heresies that establish themselves as states would become legitimate targets.

But as to why... well, haven't you WON?
 

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There's still the event Crusades if you have the right DLC (Northern and Reconquista at least. Maybe not the Fourth if Jerusalem has been taken). I don't think anything much stops those firing, even being massively overpowered. Unless you happen to have removed them as valid targets by converting them.

I'd expect that any Heresies that establish themselves as states would become legitimate targets.

But as to why... well, haven't you WON?

I don't have the Reconquista DLC, just the Northen one. Sorry but I won what? o_O
 

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That's not a DLC - it's a mechanic, can't remember if it's Holy Fury specific or base game.

According to the patch notes they are Holy Fury specific.
 

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That must be a bug, i had conquered the entire middle east to christianity and the Pope still called for Crusades.
 

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That must be a bug, i had conquered the entire middle east to christianity and the Pope still called for Crusades.
Yeah, but he said there were no pagans or muslims left in Europe. Pope will happily crusade against those if any remain. If he's down to India, West Africa and the steppes for non-Christians, I'm not sure how likely it is to pop up.
 

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I can finally confirm that crusades calls require external vassal wars enabled when the Pope is a vassal. I re-enabled them and two years later a crusade call was again available. Thank you for the information.