No Gateway Tech...

[unmerged(350868)]

Hello

I set Gateways to 0.25, because I hate random gateways.

Unfortunately, I am researching all the mege structures in 2434 (x1.7 research speed), with about 65 years until the crisis... and the research has not come up yet. Getting slightly worried.

I cannot see any other fateways, abandoned or otherwise.

Does this mean there wont be any way to get a gateway built?

Bit worried yet another game is going to be buggered by the x5 crisis, because of an fuckup in my settings.

If this is the case, is there anyway I can unfuck this... or am I just unclucky, and the research can still come up if I wait a bit longer?

Cheers

 

[Ryika]

If there are no gateways, you won't get gateway tech.

If you're not playing Ironman mode, you can unlock the tech as a tech option (= it is available but still needs to be researched) via this console command:

effect add_research_option = tech_gateway_activation

If you want to be fair, give it to all normal countries via:

effect every_country = { limit = { is_country_type = default } add_research_option = tech_gateway_activation }

It's also possible to just give those technologies, but from what you wrote, I assume you want to cheat as little as possible to fix things.

 

[unmerged(350868)]

You know what..?

That's bloody awesome!!!

Gate techs for everyone.

Cheers dude!!!


Although I wish the options screen said there is a danger of that by selecting a low chance of gates.

Yeah... I will wipe my memory so I go back to being blissfully unaware of the console.

Although the great khan has made an appearance over the other side of the galaxy. Shame my GDF fleet is so far away. By the time I get there it may be too late, and I will have to claim all of those systems for myself... Damn shame... If only we had those techs 50 years ago... No, no... The L Gate is offline for maintenance... have to take the extra long, really really slow way around. It has got nothing to do with the fact you voted against the formation and expansion of my... of *the* GDF. Yep... see you in 50 years... or so... or not

 

[BrokenSky]

do you have the highest tier FTL drive tech? I think that might be a pre-req?

I'm just asking 'cause I tend to ignore them when playing hyperlane civs (back when there were other FTL types I would actually care about them since they represented an actual upgrade, but hyperlane travel speed is dominated by STL speed, not FTL charge times).

 

[ASGeek2012]

do you have the highest tier FTL drive tech? I think that might be a pre-req?

Indirectly.

Gateway Construction requires Gateway Activation, which in turn requires Hyperspace Slipstreams, a.k.a. Hyperdrive III

 

[Aepdneds]

If there are no gateways, you won't get gateway tech.

As far as I know L-Gates count too

Stellaris Gateway tech requirement

I've found quite a few threads on this topic, but none contained the info I am looking for: The requirement list for Gateway Activation lists that you need to have "encountered" a Gateway or L-Gate: However, what does "encountered" mean? I'm...

forum.paradoxplaza.com

The comments are saying that it is neccessary that one of your science ships was in a system with a gateway or l-gate, just seeing them on the map isn't sufficient.

 

[Ryika]

Yes, gateways and L-Gates both count. Should probably have been more clear.

If you've seen either of them, or if a neighboring country has the gateway activation technology, the gateway tech can show up.

 

[ASGeek2012]

Yes, gateways and L-Gates both count. Should probably have been more clear.

Maybe not.

Physics research - Stellaris Wiki

stellaris.paradoxwikis.com

Relevant line: "(L-gates are supposed to count, but don't due to a bug.)"

Not sure if that's still accurate anymore. I usually have encountered both L-Gates and normal gates by the time I get the tech.

 

[Aepdneds]

Not sure if that's still accurate anymore. I usually have encountered both L-Gates and normal gates by the time I get the tech.

Well, that line was added september 13th this year, so who ever added this was thinking that this is still up-to-date

Difference between revisions of "Physics research" - Stellaris Wiki

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[Aepdneds]

Just for the ones who are interested here the game code

tech_gateway_activation = {
    cost = @tier4cost3
    area = physics
    tier = 4
    category = { particles }
    is_rare = yes
    is_reverse_engineerable = no
    weight = @tier4weight3
    prerequisites = { "tech_hyper_drive_3" }

    feature_flags = { gateway_activation }

    weight_modifier = {
        factor = 0.5
        modifier = {
            factor = 0.1
            NOR = {
                research_leader = {
                    area = physics
                    has_trait = "leader_trait_expertise_particles"
                }
                research_leader = {
                    area = physics
                    has_trait = "leader_trait_curator"
                }
                research_leader = {
                    area = physics
                    has_trait = "leader_trait_spark_of_genius"
                }
                research_leader = {
                    area = physics
                    has_trait = "leader_trait_maniacal"
                }
            }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 1.25
            has_tradition = tr_discovery_adopt
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 1.25
            research_leader = {
                area = physics
                has_trait = "leader_trait_expertise_particles"
            }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = @ap_technological_ascendancy_rare_tech
            has_ascension_perk = ap_technological_ascendancy
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = @federation_perk_factor
            has_federation = yes
            federation = {
                has_federation_perk = rare_tech_boost
                any_member = { has_technology = tech_gateway_activation }
            }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 0
            NOR = {
                OR = {
                    has_seen_any_bypass = gateway
                    has_seen_any_bypass = lgate
                }
                any_relation = {
                    is_country_type = default
                    has_communications = ROOT
                    has_technology = tech_gateway_activation
                }
            }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 4
            OR = {
                owns_any_bypass = gateway
                owns_any_bypass = lgate
            }
        }
    }

    ai_weight = {
        factor = 4 #FTL techs are good
        modifier = {
            factor = 1.25
            research_leader = {
                area = physics
                has_trait = "leader_trait_expertise_particles"
            }
        }
        modifier = {
            factor = 2
            is_ai = no #auto-research
        }
    }
}

 

[Ryika]

Maybe not.

Physics research - Stellaris Wiki

stellaris.paradoxwikis.com

Relevant line: "(L-gates are supposed to count, but don't due to a bug.)"

Not sure if that's still accurate anymore. I usually have encountered both L-Gates and normal gates by the time I get the tech.

Tested it really quickly, and yes, it's indeed bugged. has_seen_bypass = lgate does not return true for lgates, even if you've seen (=been in the same system as) one. Works fine for wormholes though.

 

[Lykus Cerebros]

As far as I know L-Gates count too

Stellaris Gateway tech requirement

I've found quite a few threads on this topic, but none contained the info I am looking for: The requirement list for Gateway Activation lists that you need to have "encountered" a Gateway or L-Gate: However, what does "encountered" mean? I'm...

forum.paradoxplaza.com

The comments are saying that it is neccessary that one of your science ships was in a system with a gateway or l-gate, just seeing them on the map isn't sufficient.

Can confirm that L-Gates don't work for gateway tech.

Always assumed that was intentional.