No center of reformation

[Asarii]

i´m playing an ironman as spain and it is around 1540.

several years ago i got the message that prtestantism "started". Some years later i realized that there were only two little protestant provinces in the world. One in croation and one in Hamburg. Moreover i never spottet the symbol for a "center of reformation"... what is this!??!?! (((((((((((

 

[True_Heir_of_Rome]

I had this happen in my most recent game as Austria. I have no idea what causes it, but if I were you I would find a way to take the HRE.

 

[Dakka]

It’s bugged. It has been since CoC has been released. Paradox is aware of it, I’ve already been part of two of these threads myself

 

[Asarii]

i find it super annoying as a missing core feature like this somehow breaks the game for me I mean reformation is such an essential part for europe.... well guess I´ll have to play something else then

 

[Asarii]

okay. I let a new game run in observer mode. Around 1520 a Religious Center for Protestants spawned in the middle of Germany. However if I remember correctly there used to appear more than only one?
Moreover I did not see a Center for the Reformed Faith.... -.-

 

[Dakka]

okay. I let a new game run in observer mode. Around 1520 a Religious Center for Protestants spawned in the middle of Germany. However if I remember correctly there used to appear more than only one?
Moreover I did not see a Center for the Reformed Faith.... -.-

One pops by event and two more should appear when the next two countries flip on their own accord (not by rebels). I’m only seeing one or sometimes two appearing on their own. It’s a sucky time to play in Germany right now... unless you are Austria

 

[peenerz]

I'm playing through my first ever successful Prussia run right now (successful as in barely surviving but not getting killed by a hostile Austria and her 3 other great power allies), only to now realize how fucked I am in my game because only me and a small handful of other countries are protestant. The league war is already extremely one sided, and for some reason the Ottomans joined the Catholics too, even though their rivals Austria and Hungary are on that side.

 

[Greene]

time to put the game away until next patch then

 

[True_Heir_of_Rome]

It's not like they don't spawn in every game. I had a Brandenburg>Prussia>Germany game this patch where I didn't even join the league war and was made Emperor after the Protestants won. It's a bug, and it needs to be fixed but it's not like the game is ruined. EU4 is Alt-history anyway. Who is to say that there always has to be a strong reformation?

 

[Asarii]

time to put the game away until next patch then

sad but that´s what i will do too

 

[macd21]

i´m playing an ironman as spain and it is around 1540.

several years ago i got the message that prtestantism "started". Some years later i realized that there were only two little protestant provinces in the world. One in croation and one in Hamburg. Moreover i never spottet the symbol for a "center of reformation"... what is this!??!?! (((((((((((

Something that occasionally happens now: CoR spawns in an OPM and starts converting. Country that it’s in converts to Protestant. Country is ten forced to convert back to Catholic, either due to war or at the Emperor’s request. The capital automatically flips to Catholic - destroying the CoR. With no CoR to convert provinces, no new CoRs spawn.

This happens more now that a country converting to Protestant no longer auto-spawns the next CoR, so it takes longer for the second and third CoRs to appear.

It’s not really a bug, all the mechanics are working correctly, it’s just that sometimes the Reformation gets strangled before it can really take hold.

 

[Shadow_PL]

My experience (only 3 games in 1.24)

1. Reformation was huge, (France Reformed,PLC Protestant, half HRE protestnat) but league war not triggered. (I was BYZ)
2. Reformation was small and died fast
3. I was in HRE(holland) and went protestant along with my Silesian friend and then half HRE was protestant due to our centers. But then noone else (big outside HRE) went protestant and there was no reformed centers at all.

As you can see 3 games totally different outcome.

 

[Nyrael]

This happens more now that a country converting to Protestant no longer auto-spawns the next CoR, so it takes longer for the second and third CoRs to appear.

It’s not really a bug, all the mechanics are working correctly, it’s just that sometimes the Reformation gets strangled before it can really take hold.

Converting no longer auto-spawns them? What makes them appear now?

 

[macd21]

Converting no longer auto-spawns them? What makes them appear now?

I believe there’s a chance one will spawn when a country spawns, but it’s not guaranteed. So sometimes the second one won’t spawn until 3 or 4 countries convert.

 

[Ninking]

okay. I let a new game run in observer mode. Around 1520 a Religious Center for Protestants spawned in the middle of Germany. However if I remember correctly there used to appear more than only one?
Moreover I did not see a Center for the Reformed Faith.... -.-

That is because of a very stupid bug that's very easy to fix. The event which starts the Reformed reformation lacks the command which switches the province religion to reformed before it puts a center there. That makes it disappear immediately.

It still converts the capital though, so if the first center is in a capital: good. If it isn't: No reformed faith at all.

Anyone who wants to try it out can just start a new game and pick a large catholic country, e.g. France, and run event 2011 in the console. Unless the center spawns in your capital, you'll immediately get a pop up saying you've lost your center of reformation.

I made a bug report before the most recent patch, and even if it takes 1 minute to fix it still hasn't been implemented

 

[Nyrael]

I made a bug report before the most recent patch, and even if it takes 1 minute to fix it still hasn't been implemented

How long it takes to fix does not matter: unless it is a high-class game-breaking bug (which this though borderline, still isn't), the bufix will be released together with other bugfixes.

 

[Asarii]

That is because of a very stupid bug that's very easy to fix. The event which starts the Reformed reformation lacks the command which switches the province religion to reformed before it puts a center there. That makes it disappear immediately.

It still converts the capital though, so if the first center is in a capital: good. If it isn't: No reformed faith at all.

this fits to my observations where Reformed Faith spawned in a province in Northern Germany but i couldn´t find a CoR

 

[Jman47]

Im pretty sure what ninking said is what happened in my current run. We did have a league war however, and the Catholics won decisively. This run isnt centered in the HRE for me so i didnt really care, but I noticed it after checking the region map when I noticed no majors had made the switch. Reformed event happened but the religion disappeared quickly, and currently protestant faith is centered around Brandenburg as the only remaining area that is not catholic.

I would say if what ninking stated is accurate that it changes the gamestate enough and is an easy enough correct to warrant a hotfix, but I suppose the devs have their reasons.

 

[Asarii]

I looked into the changelog of the Japan update:

• Fixed issue that could make centers of reformation not appear if the reformation started in a place where centers of reformation weren't allowed to spawn

maybe they didn´t fix it as well as they thought and it has to do sth with this