no BBB, but castile+austria...

[P1lot]

i´m playing as Tuscany and have formed italy.

austria has eaten hungary through personal union and now just recently that big austria got under castille through personal union...
any suggestions what to do before castile becomes overpowered?

 

[Bagelking37]

Build relations with Castile, ally, royal marriage, keep good relations up, hope for PU.

 

[trojan1234]

Ally with France. Become republic. Dow with counter revolution CB. Install republic on Castile/Austria/Hungary through war. The end of giant unions.

 

[Tigrislove]

Sounds like the AI is trying to rebuild the empire of Charles V! I think I would try and ally with France, and probably Burgundy if they are still around. Also try and find an ally in the east to occupy Austria, like the Ottomans. You can become a republic and use the counter-revolution CB, but it might be easier to stay as a monarchy and see if you can crush Castille in a war. If they have negative prestige when their current king dies, the PU will end. Not saying it will be easy though!

 

[HansBaer]

Do you have def + off ideas? If so, you will easily win any war against them, so you could just carpet siege Castile (it is surprisingly easy thanks to the pyrenees, France often does it on its own, and a united Italy is just as strong) until the PU ends, no need to bother with Austria at all.
Or vassalize the electors, revoke the privileges and smash them all.

Ah, and make friends with England, their fleet might come in handy. Also, ally Portugal and dow some minor Castille is allied to, without CB if needed, call in Portugal on the same day (pause before Castille becomes war leader), so you don't have to fight them, too.

 

[P1lot]

Its an awkward situation, I'm allied with castille, Austria and bohemia (from when they ruled hre). All of us have royal wedding plus allied with one another. Plus France is allied with castile... I cant win from castile plus Austria plus France in war... Even though i have defensive ideas finished and am halfway quantity, I don't believe i can pull it off

 

[SweetHalcyHS]

Screw Europe and achieve victory by running off to the New World!

No, seriously, as long as France is allied with to them, I don't see you pulling this one off easily. Your only hope is that Russia's become such a monstrosity that it can solo Europe, but otherwise, no.

 

[Bibor]

Get and keep Castille's prestige under 0, if possible.

 

[Talar]

Get and keep Castille's prestige under 0, if possible.

Any good ideas on how to do that without fighting them?

 

[unmerged(804580)]

The only way I know to break off personal unions is to drop their prestige to negative ... by fighting them, I suppose. What happened to Aragon and Naples? Did the Iberian Wedding fire?

I just finished my Tuscany game and my first primary objective (other than gobbling up Italian minors earlier than later) was to ally Castile to keep them at war with Aragon as much as possible, to reduce the chance of Iberian Wedding. They can hate each other as much as they can, but AFAIK the only thing that can prevent (other than random chance) is to keep them at war as much as possible. As a side benefit, it also makes Naples independent by dropping Aragon's prestige.

But if Castile ate up both of them, and is now leading PU with Austria, then Castile will integrate Austria as soon as possible because they certainly will have more than enough provinces than Austria... Personally, I'd say GG. Spain integrating Naples is bad enough for an Italian nation... Well, if you are big enough to form Italy, you probably will manage to survive, but you'll be struggling.