No announcement of the next DLC today ?
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It introduces a new playable religion, Sadism. Hence the lack of information. :angry:
I expected it as well. Given that there are no many available weeks for DDs before the new year...
why today? imo it would have made most sense to either come out today before the holiday season, or come out somewhere in the early new year with the announcement just after the holiday season.
What would be nice is if they let us trade back SoI for the new one!! I would smile at that!!
We don't even know what the new one is, and SoI is pretty cool actually.
Can someone enlighten me? Holiday season? I thought the holidays start 15th-20th of december?
We will agree to disagree on SoI. Nope and no idea what new one will be, my guess is it will be religion based, it will fix the Papal States and alllow Cardinals and then votes for Pope. This is needed and not to many people would be upset!!
I hope the Pope gets moved to a rather later date as there are much bigger issues anyway.
For example? I'm not being snarky, I actually want to know, all we usually hear requested is cardinals/pagans/republics.
SoI is awesome, they clearly put tons of work into it creating a totally different style of play for muslims.
I'd say all of those are far higher on my list than a playable Pope, as they bring a lot more to potential gameplay than:
"King Whoever wants his excommunication lifted? Yes or no?"
"Some duke throws money at you for more piety"
"Some duke throws money at you for more piety"
"King Whoever still wants that excommunication lifted. Yes or no?"
"Sorry, decade until you can call for a new Crusade!"
"Some duke throws money at you for more piety"
"The Count of Orvietto has started the Independence Faction. It has 2.8% power, lolpoorbastard"
"Some duke throws money at you for more piety"
"You've lifted King Whoever's excommunication!"
"Duke Whatsit wants King Whoever excommunicated. Yes or no?"
It's, literally, one character (that PI has said before will never be playable, though I'm sure that isn't set in stone given the right ideas). I don't find the idea of granting nonstop divorces, papal indulgences, and tossing out the occasional excommunication to be super compelling gameplay, and its stuff that you'd have to deal with as a player Pope as all those events HAVE to go through your character. I can just see some snarky jackass now choosing to play the Pope in MP, and it taking 10 hours to get to 1067 as he keeps having to pause to deal with the silly amount of events thrown his way.
Oh yeah I totally agree with that, a playable pope would be pointless. I thought you meant you didn't want the pope improved full stop.
In all seriousness, I'm a little shocked myself. The last word was "we'll see the new one probably around New Year's"... figured this would be the week to start it up.
But next week would still pan out with that word from Johan.
But next week would still pan out with that word from Johan.
Oh... well, you listed cardinals, and I thought they'd be a part of the inevitable "lets improve Catholicism" DLC.
With that said, my point still remains... at least in regards to Pagans. If Republics were to be bundled up with an improved economic system, then them too. I'm all for improving how the Catholic church is represented in CKII, but being able to change history through the power of polytheism and improved economics all take a front seat in my opinion to, essentially, having more go on regarding the head of a single religion. It'd be a nice overhaul, but I doubt itd be to the depth of the Orthodox overhaul given that the game was first designed with the Catholics in mind.
So, in terms of DLCs/major patches, yeah... Pagans n' Republics before we flesh out a single, non-playable character.
Also, I'd like if they'd update the forum avatars. There were already titles missing, like Nubia, and that list of missing Duchies and Kingdoms and Empires has only grown.
The DLC does not need to be centered on this, but it would be cool if it/the accompanying patch fleshed out the imprisonment and the ways of getting people in and out of jail a bit. For example:
- a CB on another ruler to release a prisoner (e.g. when you don't want to pay ransom or the ruler refuses to release the prisoner),
- a CB on another ruler to give over a prisoner/courtier (e.g. useful when one of your pesky courtiers escapes the arrest and flees to a foreign court),
- a plot to arrest your vassal with no relationship penalty (similar to revocation plot; your plot supporters represent you fabricating evidence/getting the "court of peers" to agree to the imprisonment demand),
- a plot to free a prisoner,
- a plot to petition the liege to free a prisoner,
- a plot to kidnap someone in a foreign court (with a relationship malus),
- a plot to petition the liege to imprison someone,
etc.
- a CB on another ruler to release a prisoner (e.g. when you don't want to pay ransom or the ruler refuses to release the prisoner),
- a CB on another ruler to give over a prisoner/courtier (e.g. useful when one of your pesky courtiers escapes the arrest and flees to a foreign court),
- a plot to arrest your vassal with no relationship penalty (similar to revocation plot; your plot supporters represent you fabricating evidence/getting the "court of peers" to agree to the imprisonment demand),
- a plot to free a prisoner,
- a plot to petition the liege to free a prisoner,
- a plot to kidnap someone in a foreign court (with a relationship malus),
- a plot to petition the liege to imprison someone,
etc.
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