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Finland is the lone Communist state in Europe.
How did this happen? I hope you compensate this with a major advantage for Finland (some refugees from European USSR, including military equipment and specialists, thus making Finland more difficult to defeat? Nuclear armed or well on the way to acquire this by inheriting Soviet nuclear specialists, and cooperation with USSR?). It's not weirder than anything else in the mod, so I wont argue with you about how unlikely Finland would be to turn communist at that time.

EDIT: But, apparently, if it is forced, how did that happen?
 
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How did this happen? I hope you compensate this with a major advantage for Finland (some refugees from European USSR, including military equipment and specialists, thus making Finland difficult to defeat? Nuclear armed or well on the way to acquire this by inheriting Soviet nuclear specialists, and cooperation with USSR?). It's not weirder than anything else in the mod, so I wont argue with you about how unlikely Finland would be to turn communist at that time.
The idea is, Finland will change its government and join the Axis in the first years of the game.
 

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I can take care of that. I got enough time to start on it. I had to come home and get my steel-toed boots for the concrete testing class, and now have to wait for the bus.

I'll answer questions and such both here and on Team '64 Forums after school

edit: Ran out of time. I have most of the files together to set it up. TRP, I'm going to send you guys a PM on '64 Forums
 
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How did this happen? I hope you compensate this with a major advantage for Finland (some refugees from European USSR, including military equipment and specialists, thus making Finland more difficult to defeat? Nuclear armed or well on the way to acquire this by inheriting Soviet nuclear specialists, and cooperation with USSR?). It's not weirder than anything else in the mod, so I wont argue with you about how unlikely Finland would be to turn communist at that time.

EDIT: But, apparently, if it is forced, how did that happen?
Easy, since the mod is entirely based on the AAR, all the little weird results of that awesome game get carried over.

In this case, Finland is communistic because it fell to the Soviet Union early on during Operation Barbarossa. The Germans then proceeded to crush the Russians in the following years, but neglected Scandinavia completely, which was still under communist control when Bitter Peace was triggered. This ended the war in the east, but the in-game event treated Finland as if it was still an Axis ally, so it even got territorial gains out of the peace deal.
 

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So to speak, yes. Its population wants to join the Axis, but its government is currently a hard-line Communist state. Wit the weakening influence of the Soviet Union only continuing to weaken, eventually the people will up-rise and take over, with German support or not.
 

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Or, you know, you could just have a Communist state that decides to invent a doctrinal dispute with the Soviet Union, and use that as an excuse to join up with the Axis?

Or is the Axis still anti-Communist?
 

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did germany conquer denmark and norway? i see potential for a northern super state to form
 

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@Totally Random Productions, have you worked out how to make the intro movie yet?

The maker of the MDS one is unfortunately no longer on these forums, but it should not be to difficult to figure out, when you have the bink RAD Video Tools program. I did some technical changes on the MDS2 movie, since sound was not properly enabled, but I don't remember to much details about it.

Very good first post graphics, kudos to you guys, and good luck. :)
 

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@Totally Random Productions, have you worked out how to make the intro movie yet?

The maker of the MDS one is unfortunately no longer on these forums, but it should not be to difficult to figure out, when you have the bink RAD Video Tools program. I did some technical changes on the MDS2 movie, since sound was not properly enabled, but I don't remember to much details about it.

Very good first post graphics, kudos to you guys, and good luck. :)
Thanks :)

I've had experience with using the bik programs, so I'll be able to take whatever and put it into a video form required. I can walk them through it, or anyone else in that matter, if they need it.

I did some bik work for my own custom mission intro for Zero Hour :p

did germany conquer denmark and norway? i see potential for a northern super state to form
Yeah, but Sweden protected the Scandinavia region significantly during the war, and got them at the war's end. Finland MIGHT end up as part of Scandinavia, still alot of the design boards. I can only cover so much at once! I've got Civil Engineering programs full time, so it is hard for me to get everything at once :p

Or, you know, you could just have a Communist state that decides to invent a doctrinal dispute with the Soviet Union, and use that as an excuse to join up with the Axis?

Or is the Axis still anti-Communist?
I could, but where is all the fun in that :p Don't worry, I plan to include more then one option to solve the problem. My 'hope' is that I can make this as non-linear as possible.
 

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Oh guys, if Kris hasn't mentioned it yet, we have a moddb page now: http://www.moddb.com/mods/nineteen-sixty-four

Also, Kris, could you add me to the team on modDB? My profile name is Vincent258.

Feels good to be back into modding tbh, totally oldskool :p (For those who don't know, TRP originally started out in modding, we were part of HL2: Warzone as concept artists and made our own wacko mods for CandC. This was before we invented Totally Random Productions though, it was back when we called our stuff Totally Random Projects.

-Vincent
 

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I still hope we can get some of the Kaiserreich event scripters on 1964, they did such a great job and I think 1964 will need a shload of events to keep it ineresting :p
The events are great but they tend to get messy with the "flags" and all :).

Something that might be off help: there's a guy - Witold Orłowski, he's an economist, working for PricewaterhouseCoopers. He wrote a book "Stulecie Chaosu: Alternatywne dzieje XX wieku" (Century of Chaos: Alternate history of XX century). There are 4 scenarios in the book: 1)Third Rome - Russia without Lenin, won WWI; 2)Dragon awaken - Cixi falls, China manages to reform; 3)Red Europe - Normandy invasion fails and Soviets reach the border with Spain, Italy divided and 4) 1000 years Reich - Germany wins WWII (without nuclear war, but always... ^^) - all based on model of economical growth. All these scenarios reach 2000AD. Want me to check if there's sth you might use? :)
 

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Anything that might give us a general direction with European economies would be welcome.

Right now, the forums are full of ideas being shot around. Some concepts are already in progress, such as the tech trees and minister databases.

Man are you guys going to love the Secret Weapon tech tree I am working on. The lower third of the tech tree is all Space-race tech. Yeah, its cool :p
 

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We're also working on some very interesting totally off-the-charts techs for late game. Exosuit infantry anyone? ;)

Also, to all reading this: Join team 1964! We need lots of event scripters, and everyone is free to pick a country of his choice to work on. Events, events, events, events!

-TRP
 

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Just saw the news bit on MODDB. Was I surprised. MODDB is a great way to reach people but so few PI game modders use it. Real shame.
Yeah I convinced Kris we could use a modDB page, maybe we can attract more modders that way. HOI modding is barely represented anywhere because grognard games form kind of a closed community, only logical grognard mods stay out of the limelight aswell. It's pretty cool to see 1964 listed among that HL2/CandC3 extravaganza, and we have the media, so hell, why not? :p

I added a couple of pictures to our media library there, hey Kris, could you add a link to the modDB page in this thread?
 

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Sure can. I have about 20 minutes for a lunch before I head out into the snow. I'll come drop by '64 Forums and see whats going on over there.

edit: Pretty sweet pictures you got up there :D