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I'd say Romania but only AI weights on focuses in ahistorical. As it is now Romania will almost always be defeated by Germany, Italy, or the USSR because of guaranteeing Poland and Greece. Romanian AI should guarantee Poland much less often as well as it should go to revoke the Greek guarantee much more aggresively. Currently Romania is a waste of a good potential.

Also Hungary should go for the Rome Protocols much less often.
 

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I vote USA and UK next. Less because I think they need updated focus trees (USA really does, UK not so much), and more because it offers the best excuse for a Naval rework theme.

I would also be okay with USA/Italy for the same reasons. However, buffing Italy, Germany and Japan leaves USSR in a weak position.
 

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Surprised more people haven't voted for Britain, the left hand side works well enough but there's just so much stuff on the right hand side which is never going to be used during a normal game (intervention focuses) or effectively does nothing helpful (fortification focuses, coercion focuses)
 

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Does Poland count as vanilla? If so, then it needed a revamp when the tree first came out. It is by far the weakest tree in the game, the generic tree blows it out of the water. There's literally no reason to use the Polish tree, at all. I hope it gets redone into something less craptastic in the future.
 

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Probably all the majors that haven't had an update yet so UK, France, USSR, USA and Italy. Spain could use its own focus tree and I'm sure Sweden could be interesting since it did deals with Germany and the Allies. I could see a Sweden focus tree being somewhat similar to Yugoslavia's in the sense that it could have a long tree of focuses which don't block the other side until the very end. Poland could get some stronger focuses
 

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Does Poland count as vanilla? If so, then it needed a revamp when the tree first came out. It is by far the weakest tree in the game, the generic tree blows it out of the water. There's literally no reason to use the Polish tree, at all. I hope it gets redone into something less craptastic in the future.
Thank god I'm not the only person who thinks that. The descriptions for the focuses are a joke. You don't really get any idea of what Poland's political climate was really like in the 1930's. There is no real flavor/immersion at all.
 

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Poland needs a lot of work in terms of national spirits, flavour, and political pathways. Since Hungary can restore Austria-Hungary (why???) I see no reason why there shouldn't be an extensive tree letting Poland recreate the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The United Kingdom needs an expanded industry tree for the homeland, an industry tree for the Empire (currently implemented in a very basic way), and ahistorical paths. The United Kingdom has some of the most potential fun to be had ahistorically, as there were so many variables and paths it could go down. A U.C.S.R. (Union of Commonwealth Socialist Republics) - the decentralised Marxist rival to the Stalinist Soviets. There was Mosley's Greater Britain ideals - calling for Britain's withdrawal from world affairs and the intense development of each and every corner of the Empire. Should Mosley be assassinated the racialist Imperial Fascist League or Edward VIII could come to power - bringing along an Axis-aligned Britain (not sure the Commonwealth would follow down this path).

USA has been covered in immense detail already.

Italy's tree is mostly pretty good; a communist, democratic, (and maybe monarchist?) ahistorical branches are needed. Italy could also use some extended political options. Perhaps split Mussolini's dreams of a reborn Roman Empire and the reality of the corporatist state into two exclusive branches like Romania's Preserve Greater Romania and Balkan Dominance paths.

We know that Communist China can choose which particular doctrine of Marxism they'll adhere to: perhaps a similar option could be used for the Soviet Union? I'd personally LOVE to see Nikolai Bukharin as a possible leader. Maybe also include the faint possibility of a White Russian officer coup which would lead to a Second Russian Civil War? Then that coup could possibly lead to a restoring of the Tsar (something which many people have decried as impossible, but I disagree), or a permanent military junta or the reestablishment of the Duma, or maybe even a second coup under Rodzaevsky and the Russian fascists.

France has been relatively well-covered. I think Vichy France and Free France need their own unique divergent trees, with MAYYYYYYBE another unique one for a triumphant France that beats Germany.

The new Japan and Germany trees both look great, though I do hope for a Strasser-ist wildly ahistorical National Bolshevik path for Germany in the future.

Of the non-majors, I believe the priorities in terms of unique trees are Finland, Spain, Turkey, Greece, Sweden, and Iran. There's no proper simulation of the Winter War, the Continuation War, or the Lapland War. Likewise, there's so simulation of the British-Soviet invasion of Iran. Spain is always broken in peace deals if they join in the war. Greece tends to do pretty well in most of my campaigns (as well as in real life) so they obviously deserve some love (if the Holy Roman Empire is in the game, the Byzantine Empire's GOTTA go in right???). Sweden and Turkey, while both technically neutral, had some pretty interesting dealings with the Axis and Allies. Ahistorically they both could've gone on to be valuable allies for any faction.

But these are just the ramblings of a mostly drunk university student postponing their history paper, so pay me no heed.
 

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Maybe also include the faint possibility of a White Russian officer coup which would lead to a Second Russian Civil War? Then that coup could possibly lead to a restoring of the Tsar (something which many people have decried as impossible, but I disagree), or a permanent military junta or the reestablishment of the Duma, or maybe even a second coup under Rodzaevsky and the Russian fascists.

A restoration is a misinformed meme-machines dream. A fascist Russia? Just as goofy. A lot of the new monarchy content isn't driven by plausibility but by internet or "meme" culture. Yes, I am implying those reactionary meme's are pretty nonsensical. Simply put marketing aimed at those who don't really grasp an understanding of history in the 20th century to make a quick buck. The only restoration that stood a chance was that of the Hohenzollern's.

Also when you try to get your M.A or PHD, you will start realize how goofy a lot of this "restoration"
stuff is. I don't mean to be a negative Nancy, I really don't. But some things are just too far out.
 
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I hate to say it but I think that's all ridiculous. A restoration is a misinformed meme-machines dream. A fascist Russia? Just as goofy. A lot of the new monarchy content isn't driven by plausibility but by internet or "meme" culture. Yes, I am implying those reactionary meme's are pretty nonsensical. Simply put marketing aimed at those who don't really grasp an understanding of history in the 20th century to make a quick buck. The only restoration that stood a chance was that of the Hohenzollern's.
I have witnessed little of this meme culture around the Romanovs that you speak of. I'm talking about the restoration of a Tsar under a government established through a White government - not under the Soviets. Do not think I am so mistaken as to think a restoration of a Tsar or any kind of royalty would be possible under Lenin's party. Besides, have you studied 20th century Russia? The masses, that is to say the peasants, wouldn't really care or even notice if the Tsar was returned to power. News traveled slowly in old Russia. In Hans Von Luck's autobiography, he talks about a Georgian family he stayed with who still believed World War I was happening (this was after the conclusion of World War II).

Besides, is the restoration of the Tsar really so ridiculous as you say when compared with a restoration of Austria-Hungary BY Hungarians? Or a communist Japan? Or how about Luxembourg conquering the world? Hearts of Iron IV is a sandbox - it is up to the developers to find a way to creatively allow as many choices as the game permits or warrants. Please keep in mind it is currently possible to flip to fascism in the game. Obviously it was the intention of Paradox to allow such a change, or there would be no fascist demagogue and no unique portrait for the fascist leader. Putting it in national foci form merely allows for a more enjoyable and fluid experience rather than the rigid system of watching party popularity tick up because you're boosting fascism in your own country.
 

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I don't think any Russian would want to go back to a Tsar after the disaster that was Nicholas and his ministers. Oh and you are part of the edgy far right meme culture. You quote a fascist in your signature. You claim you are a "Mosleyite". You might as well call yourself a "Hitlerite". I mean Adolf did participate in Mosely's wedding. I reported you. Want to know why? I don't see anyone else here quoting an Anti-Semite.
 
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I've gotta say poland. It's really quite awful.

As far as majors, I've gotta say soviets. There's literally no choices there and it's mostly responsive to the german actions. It's completely unviable to do parts that are bypassed by molotov. And they're just generally in a bad spot.
 

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I've gotta say poland. It's really quite awful.

As far as majors, I've gotta say soviets. There's literally no choices there and it's mostly responsive to the german actions. It's completely unviable to do parts that are bypassed by molotov. And they're just generally in a bad spot.
To get back on topic, the Soviet tree is pretty bad. We should have options for other leaders in the Party.
 

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I don't think any Russian would want to go back to a Tsar after the disaster that was Nicholas and his ministers. Oh and you are part of the edgy far right meme culture. You quote a fascist in your signature. You claim you are a "Mosleyite".
No I agree, but Tsar Nicholas II was dead. The masses might not want it, but if the officers were to force it to happen then they couldn't exactly refuse them. It's not like Russia has a history of enacting the will of the masses.

I admire Mosley for his suggested reforms AFTER the war. Mosley was an economist and politician, not a racialist like Hitler. He condemned racialism and removed racialist elements from his party, for example William Joyce. When Mosley's BUF began, the Imperial Fascist league (they'd been around in Britain for longer, think of them as like a British Nazi Party) condemned Mosley and his party as 'Kosher Fascists'.

I don't identify as right-wing (especially not far-right) and neither did Mosley. I'm not exactly a Mosleyite, I'm more of a centrist-socialist that studies Mosley and his suggested reforms for Europe. He was a fascinating man. If you're a reader, pick up Robert Skidelsky's biography of Oswald Mosley. He was a very important figure in the '20s as a Conservative AND Labour politician. He left the conservatives because he disagreed heavily with their policy of inflicting terror on the Irish. With Labour, his socialist proposals were bold - the government was not. Anyways, this is all beside the point but I won't let accusations like being part of the far-right stand just because I include Oswald Mosley in my studies on socialism.
 

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No I agree, but Tsar Nicholas II was dead. The masses might not want it, but if the officers were to force it to happen then they couldn't exactly refuse them. It's not like Russia has a history of enacting the will of the masses.

I admire Mosley for his suggested reforms AFTER the war. Mosley was an economist and politician, not a racialist like Hitler. He condemned racialism and removed racialist elements from his party, for example William Joyce. When Mosley's BUF began, the Imperial Fascist league (they'd been around in Britain for longer, think of them as like a British Nazi Party) condemned Mosley and his party as 'Kosher Fascists'.

I don't identify as right-wing (especially not far-right) and neither did Mosley. I'm not exactly a Mosleyite, I'm more of a centrist-socialist that studies Mosley and his suggested reforms for Europe. He was a fascinating man. If you're a reader, pick up Robert Skidelsky's biography of Oswald Mosley. He was a very important figure in the '20s as a Conservative AND Labour politician. He left the conservatives because he disagreed heavily with their policy of inflicting terror on the Irish. With Labour, his socialist proposals were bold - the government was not. Anyways, this is all beside the point but I won't let accusations like being part of the far-right stand just because I include Oswald Mosley in my studies on socialism.
You just don't quote tainted historical figures in a forum? Its pretty obvious thing. I didn't mean to get so angry. I was wrong and I did judge a book by its cover.
 

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Here's my full breakdown on the reworks for Major Powers. I'm gonna start with my opinion on the two new ones.

Germany. I think the rework to the economic side has been a long time coming. It is, by far, the weakest part of the original tree, and really just needed to go. It was so short, got little done, and worst of all, put the extra research slot after rockets, which means you'd have the 50% rocket tech discount way, way ahead of time, since you really, really want more research slots. But what really matters is the new tree. And boy, is it a pretty good one. It may be a bit more plausible that we'd see the monarchy restored in Germany than anywhere else. To the Prussians (Prussia made up most of Germany prior to the unification), they'd only ever known the power of a Monarchy, and the Wiemar Republic failed miserably. Not to mention the lust for revenge, and nothing would be a sweeter revenge than bringing back Wilhelm II. Of course, in Hearts of Iron, the people don't matter, it's the people in charge who do matter, and it's pretty likely that the Wehrmacht officers who didn't like Hitler, or approve of his "Night of Long Knives" would plot against him. It's hard to say for sure if it was really possible, since it didn't happen, but it's a nice thought. The democratic path also makes a little sense. It's pretty likely that if they could organize a coup against Hitler, the old guard of Germany would also recognize the necessity of keeping the Allies off their backs, so very openly supporting the Kaiserreich would only antagonize France and Britain, maybe even worse than Hitler would. I also like the ability to create a power-block against the Allies and Comintern, and I think keeping Operation Tannenbaum strictly to the "Accept British Naval Dominance" and Kaiserreich paths might be a bit much, though... Still, nice to have an "Invade Sweden" option somewhere, at least.

Japan. Everybody knows Japan needed this change. I never even touched Japan because you can SEE how terrible the tree is with your eyes. The only major choices you get in the original tree is "Puppet China" vs "Attack China" and "Attack Colonies and USA" vs "Attack USSR." It just sucked. The new one actually looks to be one of the best, most well thought out focus trees... balance-wise. I'm not knowledgeable enough about 1930's Japan to know anything other than they wanted an empire of their own, like all the cool western boys. The choice between USSR and China may seem arbitrary, but for the scope of the game, there's really only time for attacking one enormous, hard to fight in land that has proven resistant to invasion in the past. Overall good job.

I can see these two quickly jumping in popularity with these new trees. Well, Germany is already popular, but it might surpass 50% pick rate with just 1.5 new options to play with.

Now, on to the nations that haven't seen the loving hand of a touch up yet...

USA. Good lord, the USA tree is unbearably slow. Barely even enough focuses to unlock continuous focuses to build stuff until WT hits that peak, and the war goal focuses really just seem like catch-alls for when Germany wins in 1939 and there are no allies left to speak of but the Comintern, which will probably also be losing. And the alternate war goal focuses are just.. what? Why is there one for the UK? The UK doesn't even get options to BE aggressive unless fascism is on the rise on certain countries, and the USA would probably not attack the UK for that mess. More "European Problems" are not a reason to go to war, cry the American people, lowering war support immensely.
It's better than Japan, but... not by much. I can't really propose a rework for this one. America has always proven immovable from its democracy, but that doesn't mean that if the government you control came out in overwhelming support of the fascist and socialist ideologies that helped rebuild Europe after her worst war, the people would outright reject it. They would adapt it and mould it into their form of democracy. FDR's New Deal was pretty socialist, but it wasn't a communist revolution, it was a few safeguards to keep capitalism safe from another crisis. I couldn't see an American Hitler, but I could see an American Mosley coming into power at this time. Someone very much nationalist and somewhat reactionary who sought to go back to the "good old days." There might also be someone who doesn't see the New Deal as going far enough, and favor a more socialist/communist form, but I just don't see it happening.

United Kingdom. The UK tree is pretty good at the moment, but nowhere near as good as Germany's base tree, so it needs some real changes. I haven't played much as the UK, so I'll just speak on potential alternate history. Mosely is the obvious option for a Fascist UK, as his ideas of a return to the Victorian Era and a new UK as the world's strongest superpower likely appealed to some people in the dying empire. communism might be a harder sell, but you never know.

France. The French tree is the only base tree that lets you explore alternate history, but the furthest it goes is "turn fascist" "turn communist" or "fix the gov, idiot", never anything past that because it's assumed you'll have fallen anyway by the time you get that far. The economic and army trees are also a little short, stopping at "fix this shit"
And you extend the Maginot in the stupidest way, erecting forts all along the Belgian border when it would make more sense to finance the actual extension that was supposed to go into Belgium...

USSR. Another one I've never played, mostly because I find the size intimidating and it just seems... boring. The focus tree looks boring, especially the purge. Do it or coup, but... was a coup even going to happen? Or was Stalin's infamous paranoia really getting the better of him? Still, some alternate history and some other, lesser known fellas in the USSR might be nice to see. Certainly not Trostky, though. He was long gone by 1936 and wouldn't make a return just because some whites decided to revolt.

Italy. This one is pretty ok, but, lordy lord, would I love to see some changes. This is one I really don't know anything about, I'd just like a different Italy tree to play with, one more focused on taking what you can from the Reich before they inevitably turn on you. After all, Hitler was pretty vocal about not liking Italians, or other "meds" all that much, so an eventual war between the two seems pretty likely. And the overthrowing of Mussolini. If Italy gets invaded for real, Mussolini should get overthrown well before capitulation. Especially if they lost their African holdings.

As for some neat minors... the rest of the Balkans need some love. Greece, Turkey, and Bulgaria really need some of that there attention... and if there are formable nations, you can be sure that Byzantium and the Ottomans will be in there. Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland would make another nice group. Spain needs an expansion all to itself like China got, but that might be a little greedy for what will amount to 2 focus trees. Could group it in with Italy, Greece, Turkey, and a free Egypt for a Mediterranean expansion, though. Brazil and Mexico might merit some love. Argentina as a long stretch, but I don't see any other American minors wanting much. Gran Columbia might make a good nation to form, though.

Well, that's what I'd like to see. Sorry for the long post, but I figured why not.
 

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Italy. This one is pretty ok, but, lordy lord, would I love to see some changes. This is one I really don't know anything about, I'd just like a different Italy tree to play with, one more focused on taking what you can from the Reich before they inevitably turn on you. After all, Hitler was pretty vocal about not liking Italians, or other "meds" all that much, so an eventual war between the two seems pretty likely. And the overthrowing of Mussolini. If Italy gets invaded for real, Mussolini should get overthrown well before capitulation. Especially if they lost their African holdings.

I like everything you suggested but Italy. For Italy I feel like you need to have a choice about where your major theater of operations will be. Will it be North Africa or will it be the Balkans? For what actually happened, Mussolini thought he could handle and wanted both. You should have a chance to choose between the two , if you don't act, you end up with having to deal with both like what actually happened. That might just be more trouble then its worth. Realistically, you will have to make a choice. Also there might be specific figures in the armed forces that preferred one region over the other. More research would be required to flesh this idea out to make it believable.

Edit: I know Italo Balbo did not want war with the Allies but was assigned to command the invasion of Egypt, then died due to a plan crash (friendly fire via aa guns), maybe he could be included in a faction that wants to concentrate on North Africa?
 
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FDR's New Deal was pretty socialist, but it wasn't a communist revolution, it was a few safeguards to keep capitalism safe from another crisis. I couldn't see an American Hitler, but I could see an American Mosley coming into power at this time. Someone very much nationalist and somewhat reactionary who sought to go back to the "good old days." There might also be someone who doesn't see the New Deal as going far enough, and favor a more socialist/communist form, but I just don't see it happening.
Unfortunately, the man you have just described is Huey "Every Man A King" Long who died one year before the start of Hearts of Iron IV. Huey Long didn't see the New Deal as going far enough to aid the American people, he had dubiously autocratic policies, he ran on an economic platform rather than racialism (in old Louisiana no less!), and contented both the major parties believing them to be two sides of the same coin. He was in almost every single way the American Oswald Mosley. The only other two relevant American pre-war figures I know of are William Dudley Pelley and Charles Coughlin - who very much embodied the concept of an American Hitler. Pelley was a diehard Christian, an occultist, a racist to the Nth degree, and just an overall weirdo. I don't know much about Coughlin, but I assume the same can be said. I honestly do not know how Paradox would model Pelley or any American fascist coming to power. It'd be like the KKK suddenly taking control of the entire country in about a two-year timespan. The Great Depression spirit would need a mechanic of its own to simulate unrest that would allow these radicals to even have a chance at seizing power.

And for the record, Mosley wasn't a reactionary or a Victorian (you're thinking Churchill), he was a revolutionary who condemned old British imperialism and colonisation but figured Britain should make the best of its situation to improve life at home and improve life in the impoverished colonies and mandates.

Other than that I agree with your contributions to the forum.

For Italy I feel like you need to have a choice about where your major theater of operations will be. Will it be North Africa or will it be the Balkans? For what actually happened, Mussolini thought he could handle and wanted both. You should have a chance to choose between the two , if you don't act, you end up with having to deal with both like what actually happened
I like this. In the new focus tree, Japan is forced to choose between invading China and the European colonies or invading the Soviet Union. I could easily see a similar system put in place for Italy. However, I think North Africa is too narrow a theatre. At the moment it's way too easy to push Britain and France into sub-Saharan Africa because they only station a few weak garrison troops there. Perhaps if Egypt were released as a dependent colony of Britain they would help make the North African fight much harder.
 

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Unfortunately, the man you have just described is Huey "Every Man A King" Long who died one year before the start of Hearts of Iron IV. Huey Long didn't see the New Deal as going far enough to aid the American people, he had dubiously autocratic policies, he ran on an economic platform rather than racialism (in old Louisiana no less!), and contented both the major parties believing them to be two sides of the same coin. He was in almost every single way the American Oswald Mosley. The only other two relevant American pre-war figures I know of are William Dudley Pelley and Charles Coughlin - who very much embodied the concept of an American Hitler. Pelley was a diehard Christian, an occultist, a racist to the Nth degree, and just an overall weirdo. I don't know much about Coughlin, but I assume the same can be said. I honestly do not know how Paradox would model Pelley or any American fascist coming to power. It'd be like the KKK suddenly taking control of the entire country in about a two-year timespan. The Great Depression spirit would need a mechanic of its own to simulate unrest that would allow these radicals to even have a chance at seizing power.

And for the record, Mosley wasn't a reactionary or a Victorian (you're thinking Churchill), he was a revolutionary who condemned old British imperialism and colonisation but figured Britain should make the best of its situation to improve life at home and improve life in the impoverished colonies and mandates.

Other than that I agree with your contributions to the forum.


I like this. In the new focus tree, Japan is forced to choose between invading China and the European colonies or invading the Soviet Union. I could easily see a similar system put in place for Italy. However, I think North Africa is too narrow a theatre. At the moment it's way too easy to push Britain and France into sub-Saharan Africa because they only station a few weak garrison troops there. Perhaps if Egypt were released as a dependent colony of Britain they would help make the North African fight much harder.
Maybe Middle East so British Mandate for Palestine, French Mandate for Syria and Lebanon and Iraq?

I also know Coughlin very well, he was a hardcore anti-Semite who used the idea of populism to win over his listeners. I assisted a local Jewish Museum with research on him for a new exhibit. My city Milwaukee, I might as well say it. :p Had a very large and still does, German-American community. The German-American Bund (Pro-Nazi) had a decent sized presence in the city. There was also a Hitler youth style camp outside Milwaukee (in Grafton,it was called Camp Hindenburg) but was eventually taken over by a Patriotic German-American association.

I have a few journal articles related to the Bund on my hard drive, if anyone or the developers want a copy, feel free to hit me up.
 
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Unfortunately, the man you have just described is Huey "Every Man A King" Long who died one year before the start of Hearts of Iron IV. Huey Long didn't see the New Deal as going far enough to aid the American people, he had dubiously autocratic policies, he ran on an economic platform rather than racialism (in old Louisiana no less!), and contented both the major parties believing them to be two sides of the same coin. He was in almost every single way the American Oswald Mosley. The only other two relevant American pre-war figures I know of are William Dudley Pelley and Charles Coughlin - who very much embodied the concept of an American Hitler. Pelley was a diehard Christian, an occultist, a racist to the Nth degree, and just an overall weirdo. I don't know much about Coughlin, but I assume the same can be said. I honestly do not know how Paradox would model Pelley or any American fascist coming to power. It'd be like the KKK suddenly taking control of the entire country in about a two-year timespan. The Great Depression spirit would need a mechanic of its own to simulate unrest that would allow these radicals to even have a chance at seizing power.

And for the record, Mosley wasn't a reactionary or a Victorian (you're thinking Churchill), he was a revolutionary who condemned old British imperialism and colonisation but figured Britain should make the best of its situation to improve life at home and improve life in the impoverished colonies and mandates.

Other than that I agree with your contributions to the forum.


I like this. In the new focus tree, Japan is forced to choose between invading China and the European colonies or invading the Soviet Union. I could easily see a similar system put in place for Italy. However, I think North Africa is too narrow a theatre. At the moment it's way too easy to push Britain and France into sub-Saharan Africa because they only station a few weak garrison troops there. Perhaps if Egypt were released as a dependent colony of Britain they would help make the North African fight much harder.
I am but a humble nerd making do with what little information she avails herself with, I'm just too busy with life to properly research this stuff before I go writing it down, and I thank you for correcting me on my statement. My knowledge of Oswald Mosley was he wanted to restore the British Empire to its former glory, and since getting him elected in the UK leads to an "Inexperienced Imperialist" taking charge, and the restoration of the Monarchy's power, I naturally assumed him to be a reactionary. My mistake.
Alas, if only my dream of a 1933 start date were to come to pass. That would be 3 years more to properly set the stage for an alternate history menagerie.